Sway bar question

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So recently I've had a clunk under the front passenger side that has been progressively getting worse. I happen to grab the endlink and rock it and was finally able to reproduce the sound. Tried to tighten up the base and no dice. It wouldn't budge. Removed it and the threads have been removed from the movement over time. So I did what I thought would be best. Said screw it and removed the whole dang bar.

Any negative effects to this?
Should I replace the end links?
What should I replace them with? (Not the crappy moog that was already there)
 
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So recently I've had a clunk under the front passenger side that has been progressively getting worse. I happen to grab the endlink and rock it and was finally able to reproduce the sound. Tried to tighten up the base and no dice. It wouldn't budge. Removed it and the threads have been removed from the movement over time. So I did what I thought would be best. Said screw it and removed the whole dang bar.

Any negative effects to this?
Should I replace the end links?
What should I replace them with? (Not the crappy moog that was already there)

I've been running without front sways for ~1.5 years now. Some say you will cause extra wear and tear on your ball joints and such.
 
More body roll. Just don't go flying through sharp corners at high speeds!

I bought the Moog endlinks as well about 6 months ago. I think the very first time I greased them I tore the boot by accident.

Haven't decided what I'll be replacing them with once they enivitably fail or if I should just take off the entire thing.

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It'll cause more wear on every front suspension component. Your ball joints, tre's, shocks, and so on. The sway bar will help to limit body roll, and in turn will decrease wear on front components.

Shoot me a PM when you're ready to put them back on.
 
I haven't driven a 3rd gen without a FSB, but I removed it on one of my 2nd gen runners, and it made a HUGE difference in body roll. Same with my Jetta- when I had it temporarily removed.
Its always shocking to me when I hear people say they don't notice a difference. Maybe I'm just more aware of my vehicle/suspension than others. Spring rates will have an impact on how drastic the difference is between having the bar on or off too.
I like to drive my 4Runner fairly "spiritedly", so I definitely need my FSB in. Having the FSB removed will induce over-steer, and will make the back end slide out more easily as well. Maybe most don't care- or notice- that, but it's definitely a result. Maybe the most noticeable thing would be more inner tire spin while accelerating around a corner.
That's a lot more than you asked for.
1- Yes.
2- Yes.
3- OEM. Or [MENTION=98153]MStudt[/MENTION]

Edit- [MENTION=118836]SpidermanGeek[/MENTION] reminded me-
Even just replacing my worn out FSB/end link bushings with new bushings tightened my front end up a LOT! I'm honestly blown away anyone could say they didn't notice a difference.
 
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I bought my 4Runner with both sway bars thrown in the back cargo area.

Ran like that for almost 2 years until I had some front end work done and re-installed the FSB with new hardware (MOOG End-Links/ES Mounts & Bushings).

Maybe it's because I also had the OTREs/ITREs, UBJ/LBJs changed at the same time, but wow!.. night and day. 4Runner felt much more confident on the road. Handles bumps and turn way more predictably now.

I just need to address the Rear Sway Bar as well as new shocks all around and she should ride like a dream.

To answer the original question though, you probably won't notice a HUGE difference by just taking the FSB off, but you will notice a difference. It does put slightly more stress on the other suspension components in that area, but it's not like everything will go bad overnight. It'll be way more evident if your other components are heavily worn or due to be changed though.

Anywho, if you do 75% or more on-road with your 4Runner... I wouldn't leave the FSB off. But if it's temporary until you gather parts and whatnot, go right ahead.

I put like 2K miles on my T4R per year and I have yet to bring it off-road, so going for the MOOG end-links was adequate for my situation, but if you're a little harder on your rig, you should definitely go OEM or Mstudt
 
So recently I've had a clunk under the front passenger side that has been progressively getting worse. I happen to grab the endlink and rock it and was finally able to reproduce the sound. Tried to tighten up the base and no dice. It wouldn't budge. Removed it and the threads have been removed from the movement over time. So I did what I thought would be best. Said screw it and removed the whole dang bar.

Any negative effects to this?
Should I replace the end links?
What should I replace them with? (Not the crappy moog that was already there)

I went with the Mevotech's from RockAuto for mine. They seem to be pretty heavy duty, and I installed a wheeler's poly kit for the sway bar, and steering rack. Tightened everything up nicely.
 
I removed mine a few weeks back and you can certainly notice a bit of a difference, especially if its windy out and around corners. I won't be putting it back on, though.
 

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