The Father Teaching his Daughter a lesson, Reactions?

[02SE]

I understand the father being pissed off, but he blew the situation way out of proportion, 9 rounds in a laptop and grounded for 2.5 years because she was complaining about the choirs she did, to her friends on Facebook.

Thats no different than you guys telling your friends how much you hate your work and that your boss is a douche. Your intention was for your boss to never hear that.

And I can imagine that almost all of you when you were teenagers hated doing choirs, and you probably got into an argument about it with your parents, but you didn't get grounded for 2.5 years because of it (she is 15 ish, he said till college which is 18, so thats roughly 2.5 years).

I would've hated singing in a choir too. Although I don't think that was mentioned in the video...



Now chores were something I had to do a lot of, growing up. I thank my Parents for teaching me personal responsibility, and instilling a good work ethic.

Dad's computer that he let his ungrateful Daughter use? It's his to do with as he wishes.

On the other hand, I think firing off several rounds with cars driving by so closely, was pretty stupid.

 

[RunninInGA]

Exactly?! I get that she disrespected him but obviously his IQ ladder is lacking a few rungs. He even said he spent $100 something on software?? Just take the laptop for yourself you idiot.

Talking about 'kids these days' being too spoiled, I don't think it's anyone's business how a parent chooses to raise their child as long as it's in the limits of the law. Every single parent has their OWN style of parenting. He just chose to put his out there. I think these days, parents think they are getting clever because they feel left behind with technology and they feel that kids these days are 10x smarter than them because they are familiar with all the new stuff and they aren't. So to get back at them, they try and be cool and make a billy bad @ss video to post on her facebook to humiliate her.

Speaking about spoiled children, I was no where near spoiled. I began working when I was a kid and worked for everything I have. I knew plenty of spoiled kids though. I went to high school with 2000 of them, literally. Some were actually pretty cool. Most were douchebags. It's all about how you raise your kids. Personally, if I have the money, my kids will be living well and understanding it AT THE SAME TIME.

Pops said he's in IT. Kinda debunks your lost in technology argument.

I would've hated singing in a choir too. Although I don't think that was mentioned in the video...



Now chores were something I had to do a lot of, growing up. I thank my Parents for teaching me personal responsibility, and instilling a good work ethic.

Dad's computer that he let his ungrateful Daughter use? It's his to do with as he wishes.

On the other hand, I think firing off several rounds with cars driving by so closely, was pretty stupid.

He fired those rounds directly into the laptop and ground underneath. Its not like there was ANY chance those bullets would reach those cars 100 yards away.

 

[BrianSD_42]

This thread is full of the "off topic crew", it is pretty much the same 15-20 people in this section.

Btw, am I the only one who thinks he should have turned it on before he shot it?

 

[02SE]

He fired those rounds directly into the laptop and ground underneath. Its not like there was ANY chance those bullets would reach those cars 100 yards away.

Granted, it's not likely. But I have seen some interesting, and surprising ricochets over the years.

Still a poor location choice, IMO.

 

[broncosi]

Pops said he's in IT. Kinda debunks your lost in technology argument.

Ok then A) why'd he pay for the software and B) what IT job do you know that gives laptops away for free??

Just saying, there was no real reason do destroy his own laptop that he bought for her instead of simply 'repossessing' it

 

[broncosi]

Come to think of it, if he was that 'tight' into the IT field he would have been smart enough to find a dummy version of her computer to destroy rather than wasting the real deal.

 

[Thai]

Ok then A) why'd he pay for the software and B) what IT job do you know that gives laptops away for free??

Just saying, there was no real reason do destroy his own laptop that he bought for her instead of simply 'repossessing' it

It is interesting that most young folks here defend the daughter...or criticize the dad.

He probably installed something like Microsoft Office or something along the same lines. He may be an honest person that does not steal from his IT office. Plenty of IT jobs give away work laptops. All my brothers (in IT) have company laptops for free...pretty nice ones too!

You miss the point of this lesson. It is not always about the money. He mentions what effort that he went thru for her daughter despite her first crime on the net. 1st crime results in being grounded for 3 months. Afterwards, he went back to making her happy...maybe too much IMO. But, nonetheless, he mentions those things to show that he is not a harda$$ like what his daughter blabbered to the FB page. Remember, his daughter did not let him read her FB page...but, he probably found a way in (since he is fairly good with computers).

Sometimes the impression that you make is more important than saving the laptop. Apparently, grounding the daughter (via taking the laptop away) did NOT work last time. So, your point is not valid! Why repeat a punishment that simply did not work?????? Giving it away would not have the IMPACT of this demonstration. This demonstration will stay in the daughter's mind for a long time...and guarantees that she will never see the laptop again! This will make her think again the next time that she does something stupid. This father does not care about money...but more about teaching a simple lesson to his daughter...any lesser lesson would not have worked because it failed miserably 3 months ago.

I guess some young folks here miss the whole lesson deal...but trust me, when you get older (and esp. after having kids), you get it. And yeah, some of you have it good, no matter how many ways you try to dice and slice it! Nothing wrong with that if your parents can afford it, but just don't do something stupid (or more idiotic) than what this guy's daughter did. If you do, then i would HOPE that your parents discipline the crap out of you until the lesson gets burn into your brain.

A lesson is learned when it hurts the most. My theory...and how i was raised. YMMV.

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[BrianSD_42]

Talking about 'kids these days' being too spoiled, I don't think it's anyone's business how a parent chooses to raise their child as long as it's in the limits of the law. Every single parent has their OWN style of parenting. He just chose to put his out there. I think these days, parents think they are getting clever because they feel left behind with technology and they feel that kids these days are 10x smarter than them because they are familiar with all the new stuff and they aren't. So to get back at them, they try and be cool and make a billy bad @ss video to post on her facebook to humiliate her.

Speaking about spoiled children, I was no where near spoiled. I began working when I was a kid and worked for everything I have. I knew plenty of spoiled kids though. I went to high school with 2000 of them, literally. Some were actually pretty cool. Most were douchebags. It's all about how you raise your kids. Personally, if I have the money, my kids will be living well and understanding it AT THE SAME TIME.

Where you and most parents are wrong is in assuming that the kids will "understand" the value of money they didnt actually earn. The kids will not understand and respect the concept of earning ones own money, because they did NOT actually earn it, just like the girl in the youTube video.

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What is spoiled? In my opinion it is only when the kid does not appreciate money or where it comes from. I do NOT believe that parents buying their HS or college kid a used 4Runner is indication of being spoiled.

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Parents may feel that kids are 10x smarter because they can use computers and play with tech at a higher level but I don't believe those kids are actually smarter.

College attendence is at an all time high for middle class kids but SO MANY major in non-STEM fields. If Dad was a chemist and has a daughter that is better with computers I don't assume she is smarter, especially true when said child majors Phsych, Marketing, or some other lib arts where no math is required.

My point is that while many kids may feel smarter because they are more comfortable with technology, why do they avoid math, science and technology in college.

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[BrianSD_42]

Don't forget that the daughter publicly insulted her parents and family. She also said "wait until you get old and need my help, I won't be there."

Despite all of that and shooting the laptop, this Dad mentioned sending her to college. He still wants the best for her even though he is clearly disappointed that he raised a spoiled little S.

I would -want- to send her out of the house at 18. Tell her that the family will pay for college once she turns 20 and for the two years in between she can earn her own way in the world, out of the house.

 

[broncosi]

And yeah, some of you have it good, no matter how many ways you try to dice and slice it! Nothing wrong with that if your parents can afford it, but just don't do something stupid (or more idiotic) than what this guy's daughter did. If you do, then i would HOPE that your parents discipline the crap out of you until the lesson gets burn into your brain.

That's my exact point more or less. And you're right, I have no idea because I don't have kids yet which is why I attempt to tread lightly here. I only know what it's like to be a kid of a parent who is that strict that you will never impress and never please while at the same time busting your @ss to make your own.

Where you and most parents are wrong is in assuming that the kids will "understand" the value of money they didnt actually earn. The kids will not understand and respect the concept of earning ones own money, because they did NOT actually earn it, just like the girl in the youTube video.

I think it is very possible to have a respectful kid who is deserving and understands the value of what he or she has been given. It may not of been the case with you and you may have never seen that but I have. I have seen wealthy parents give their kids everything while at the same time, they are the most polite well mannered, even keeled kid I've ever seen.

Parents may feel that kids are 10x smarter because they can use computers and play with tech at a higher level but I don't believe those kids are actually smarter.

No sh!t. Experience trumps smarts 99% of the time in my book.

My point is that while many kids may feel smarter because they are more comfortable with technology, why do they avoid math, science and technology in college.

I would have to say because we are in a transitional era to try and word it correctly. Old school meets new school and it's clashing for the most part. I personally think kids should wait and go to college a little later and get real life experience first hand in the job world. I think that would give them a better understanding of what they are going to school for and they would have a greater appreciation for all the inner workings.

 

[RonMAIDEN]

This is definetly an age and experience perspective discussion.

 

[Clemsonfan15]

I haven't read the whole thread, but I don't have a problem with what he did.

Should he have put it on YouTube: probably not.

Was it ok for him to take her laptop and shoot it: absolutely.

He makes a lot of valid points in his speech. I definitely think kids growing up now 15-23 have it easier than their parents.

 

[broncosi]

I definitely think kids growing up now 15-23 have it easier than their parents.

Of course they do, but what do you expect? Kids these days don't have to walk up hill both ways to school in snow. Times have changed, parenting needs to as well.

 

[Hepar]

I personally think it was a little over the top. I understand that he was making a point (and a valid point in my opinion), but it also seems to me that strong-minded parents usually raise strong-minded children. This might just set off some pretty powerful reactions that have the potential to get a lot worse before they get better.

This is also coming from a guy with no kids, so am I really the best judge of what is good parenting? Probably not.

 

[BrianSD_42]

Of course they do, but what do you expect? Kids these days don't have to walk up hill both ways to school in snow. Times have changed, parenting needs to as well.

Walk up a hill? Have you read the recent reports on childhood obesity. Many kids cant walk up a simple hill at all, snow or no snow.

Watch the Goonies or Stand By Me; both had a "fat kid" that today wouldn't even be considered fat.

Sorry for jumping subjects but ... I'm just saying ... it is a bit ridiculous.

 

[Hepar]

I think it is very possible to have a respectful kid who is deserving and understands the value of what he or she has been given. It may not of been the case with you and you may have never seen that but I have. I have seen wealthy parents give their kids everything while at the same time, they are the most polite well mannered, even keeled kid I've ever seen.

I can 100% attest to this. My high school was far from poor, but far from rich at the same time. In my class we had three families who were definitely "upper class." Two of them where the most spoiled brats that you'd ever see. They'd get whatever they would want and treat it like crap. Wouldn't matter because mommy and daddy would always buy them a new replacement. The third were two brothers that I was super close to (still to this day) and their parents raised them well. They could easily afford to buy them whatever they wanted to but didn't. They had to earn it. They also taught them how to respect things. Their dad was and is a big kid with TONS of fun toys. He taught them and us that he was more than happy to let us enjoy them as long as we treated them well. If we didn't then we weren't allow to use them anymore. Bottom line. So they was raised with a lot of luxuries that most don't have all while respecting them. To this day they are two of the hardest working guys I know.

 

[Thai]

Of course they do, but what do you expect? Kids these days don't have to walk up hill both ways to school in snow. Times have changed, parenting needs to as well.

Allowance? My brother and I had to do chores because we simply had to. No questions. There was no money at the end of the day. When we wanted something, we ask for it...and when our parents declined, then we accept. I drove a cheap tin can car (Chevy Sprint base model) with no AC, no power steering...in one of the hottest city! I even drove it from high school to med school! I did not get a "real" car until i finished med school...and only then, i got a Honda CRV, which was a BIG step for me! Damn, i was ecstatic...remember, this is AFTER medical school (not high school, not college).

And i don't believe in kicking kids out at 18 years of age. Nor do i believe that kids should get "life experience" before college. I went to med school at an a bit early age (20 years of age)...and i heard all sort of crap from the old farts. Ya know what? I went thru school...worked hard...and now i have years and years of life experience that i thoroughly enjoy! The few that you hear about that are successful with early life experience often overshadows the numerous failures of many who lost confidence, who can't go back to the classrooms, and who simply flunked out. And in this economy, where are you going to get life experience worth more than "welcome to McD's, what can i get you today?" Don't get me wrong, but McD's experience can be cool and helpful (for those who are truly focused on future goals), but more often than not, it derails one's education and focus.

Walk up a hill? Have you read the recent reports on childhood obesity. Many kids cant walk up a simple hill at all, snow or no snow.

Watch the Goonies or Stand By Me; both had a "fat kid" that today wouldn't even be considered fat.

Sorry for jumping subjects but ... I'm just saying ... it is a bit ridiculous.

Hehehe...nice!

 

[CookieRoe]

Allowance? My brother and I had to do chores because we simply had to. No questions. There was no money at the end of the day. When we wanted something, we ask for it...and when our parents declined, then we accept. I drove a cheap tin can car (Chevy Sprint base model) with no AC, no power steering...in one of the hottest city! I even drove it from high school to med school! I did not get a "real" car until i finished med school...and only then, i got a Honda CRV, which was a BIG step for me! Damn, i was ecstatic...remember, this is AFTER medical school (not high school, not college).

And i don't believe in kicking kids out at 18 years of age. Nor do i believe that kids should get "life experience" before college. I went to med school at an a bit early age (20 years of age)...and i heard all sort of crap from the old farts. Ya know what? I went thru school...worked hard...and now i have years and years of life experience that i thoroughly enjoy! The few that you hear about that are successful with early life experience often overshadows the numerous failures of many who lost confidence, who can't go back to the classrooms, and who simply flunked out. And in this economy, where are you going to get life experience worth more than "welcome to McD's, what can i get you today?" Don't get me wrong, but McD's experience can be cool and helpful (for those who are truly focused on future goals), but more often than not, it derails one's education and focus.

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My father is a surgeon and we (kids) had everything. My first car was a 1984 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. It was a real piece of junk. But I took care it. I was made fun of, but I didn't care. Some of my friends had brand Mitsubishi 3000GT, Mercedes Benz 420SEL, brand new SUVs among other nice new rides. I also had friends who rolled in 1972 Pontiac Wagon (falling apart), old Plymouth econo cars (Horizon, duster), etc. I had friends on "both sides of the spectrum". I considered myself "well rounded". Anyway, we had to earn it. Got bad grades? Keys were taken away. Bad mouthed Mom and Dad? That was a grounding. Allowance? I remember getting $1 a week. I had to cut the grass, take the garbage out and when winter rolled in, I had to completely shovel the entrance and driveway. (I used to live in Northeastern PA, Poconos). Also, we were RESPECTFUL children. Kids these days are royal terrors.

Thai: You had a CRV????? Were you on hondsuv.com as a member at some point????? I had 2000 CRV and was a member. I didn't participate much being that I was living in South America, but I loved that little SUV.

 

[Thai]

I had 1997 CRV with AWD. Love that thing...über reliable and not a single rattle after 99,700 miles! I was an admin of a competing forum (hondacrv.org) with Gatorgreg.

 

[broncosi]

Walk up a hill? Have you read the recent reports on childhood obesity. Many kids cant walk up a simple hill at all, snow or no snow.

Watch the Goonies or Stand By Me; both had a "fat kid" that today wouldn't even be considered fat.

What the hell does this have to do with the topic? The girl isn't obese? and the kids being fat these days isn't anyone here's fault? how is that relevant?

Everyone saying how hard they had it is completely subjective. No one can say they had it harder than anyone else period. A rich girl not having a cell phone could be as detrimental as a poor kid not having a jacket in a cold winter. I know that's a horrible analogy but my point is that everyone here can tell about how they grew up but it doesn't matter. You're not this girl, and you're not her parents.