The Longest-Lasting Cars Over 200,000 Miles – 2017 Study Shows SUVs Dominate

[catrains]

this was just posted on GM forum

I have a 00 Silverado 1500 Z71 307,000 miles, had 89,000 on it when I bought it thanksgiving 05. Original motor, Reman Jasper 4L60E put in at 282,000 miles This is my Daily driver. I recently put a 6 inch Rough Country NTD lift. I am currently running 285/75/16 (33") tires. Thinking of going to 315/75/16 (35") around the first of the year when it will be time for a new set.
I am currently running factory 3:72 gears in the front and rear diffs. I have been doing some research and it seems the optimal gears for 35" tires would be between 4:11 and 4:56.

A new GM truck will never last this long .. 18yrs and 307K miles..

 

[Scramble]

this was just posted on GM forum

I have a 00 Silverado 1500 Z71 307,000 miles, had 89,000 on it when I bought it thanksgiving 05. Original motor, Reman Jasper 4L60E put in at 282,000 miles This is my Daily driver. I recently put a 6 inch Rough Country NTD lift. I am currently running 285/75/16 (33") tires. Thinking of going to 315/75/16 (35") around the first of the year when it will be time for a new set.
I am currently running factory 3:72 gears in the front and rear diffs. I have been doing some research and it seems the optimal gears for 35" tires would be between 4:11 and 4:56.

A new GM truck will never last this long .. 18yrs and 307K miles..

Just make sure you wash the salt off your 4runner after every snow storm & she'll treat you well for a long time. I've had my 99 since new & I just bought another 99 from the original owner with 217K. I'm DD it to look for any issues but it runs like a dream.

 

[catrains]

I don't trust anything American. My two vehicles are 4runner and civic.

But, stories like yours make me scratch my head.

The new lemons from GM/etc I've heard about; even if covered under warranty it's a hassle. [MENTION=101600]hour[/MENTION] went through a hell of a time with a lemon dodge or something.

Would you agree with me though that GM is the "best" of what American brands offer? I've seen more 200k+ stories out of GM (Cadillac, a lot of good things about Buick, etc), less so out of Dodge/Chrysler(crap)/etc.

I did not post that info ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, not me....

I own from day one a 2000 silverado it has 170K miles on it ... not perfect but , did not have any drive train or engine issues . low cost repairs a good truck with good power V8 5.3L ..

any 2007 GM truck and newer ,,,,,, IMO do not buy . all expensive repairs .. engines tranny electrical failures ... that is why my new vehicle is a T4R.

 

[xterra-racer]

I cant believe this is a 2017 survey...Its amazing the highest rating was a mere 5.7%...
On average the price of a new vehicle is 34k and the average American car payment is like 480 bucks a month...None of those vehicles on the list were 34K either. I figured people would be demanding more out of vehicles these days and keeping vehicles longer. Industry trends seem to point that people are wanting quality built as one of the most important driving factor these days as well.
Perhaps im jaded and demand longevity and quality over most other attributes but I guess that's why I drive a 4Runner.
As a consumer I hold the power to steer manufacturers decisions and processes. I believe 200K should be the norm and not the exception these days.

I agree 100%

 

[Toffees]

I bet because it's a percentage combined with how many were made. My guess as to why you see the Accord on the list, but not the Civic.

Also, age of the driver. More accidents with younger drivers, who are more likely to drive civics and corollas than accords and camrys

 

[Booth9999]

More Gm on the list than anything else.

 

[Toffees]

I completely agree. This doesn't really say all that much about vehicle durability.

The Expedition is top because Ford used to sell > 200K of them a year, but now they only sell 30-40K. This means that most Expeditions left on the road are old, and generally have higher mileage. Same story for the Sequoia. Any vehicle that continues to sell well today is going to dilute out its older models, in percentage terms.

I think what the survey really says is that folks who drives lots and lots of miles every year tend to like big vehicles ... i.e. SUVs and trucks. And that gas in the USA is relatively cheap.

Would be nice to have the raw numbers, % is somewhat misleading

 

[Toffees]

More Gm on the list than anything else.

That's another piece of misleading data--2 vehicles make up 6 spots on the list.

Or, if you think the xl/short suburban needs differentiating, then 3 vehicles.

 

[TacoRunn0517]

Facts are for losers, didn't you know????

 

[97stache]

I like the looks of the study.
Currently have 07 sequoia with 155k and 97 tr4 with 356k. :shocked:

 

[Beaumont67]

............GM engines with the AFM are causing failures at a huge rate. many plug in the AFM killer so they are OK.. those that do not use this device the engine fails about 70k-100K miles.. then dealership says $7K to fix..........

^^ Good to know / excellent analysis...2007 & up are GM Junk !!
- Active Fuel Management (AFM) is a trademarked General Motors technology that improves gas mileage by shutting down half of the cylinders under light-load conditions to reduce fuel consumption. It is also known as Displacement on Demand (DoD) or cylinder deactivation.

My buddy bough a mint 2009 Z71 with low mileage and rebuilt top end, under warranty, some years ago.
- a dealership trade-in / with a fresh engine rebuild...what could go wrong (LOL)
- but the bottom end bearings went out of it, in 3-4 months time
- a $4,400 added rebuild repair bill
- probably due to lean engine oil lubrication
- AFM kills these motors

Also heard the 6 &/or 8 speed (?) automatics, have electronic shift problems to.
- all expensive's fixes

Besides my wife's 2008 RAV4 Limited v6 and my 2000 4Runner SR5 as DD'ers...I keep an old Chev. Silverado, for dump runs and pulling a trailer.
- likely will replace my 1998 Chev 3/4 ton 4x4 5.7L-v8 soon / with a 2002 Z71 1500HD 4x4 with 6.0L-v8
- but the Gen3 T4R is a keeper

 

[catrains]

many have complained about the GM transmissions 6/8 speed shift issues..

the other major problem is the wiring .. wires break with no reason ..

 

[blanchard7684]

GM engines with the AFM are causing failures at a huge rate. many plug in the AFM killer so they are OK.. those that do not use this device the engine fails about 70k-100K miles.. then dealership says $7K to fix..

Anyone who researches the details behind AFM and still purchases a vehicle with it is just plain ol retarded. Its the lamest, gimmick-iest, cheapest, attempt at driving fuel MPG numbers up.

 

[Tiki Joe]

The Longest-Lasting Cars Over 200,000 Miles ? 2017 Study Shows SUVs Dominate

Top 14 Longest-Lasting Vehicles*
Rank Model % of Cars Over 200k Miles
1 Ford Expedition 5.7%
2 Toyota Sequoia 5.6%
3 Chevrolet Suburban 4.8%
4 Toyota 4Runner 4.7%
5 GMC Yukon XL 4.2%
6 Chevrolet Tahoe 3.5%
7 GMC Yukon 3.0%
8 Toyota Avalon 2.6%
9 Toyota Tacoma 2.5%
10 Honda Accord 2.3%
10 Honda Odyssey 2.3%
11 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 2.2%
12 Ford F-150 2.1%
13 GMC Sierra 1500 2.0%
Average for All Models 1.3%
* With at least 2.0% of cars sold over 200,000 miles

I put 225k miles on my Sequoia with no issues to speak of. Still drove like a new car...didn't have 1 squeak or rattle....then I was rear ended.....

 

[swva]

I would like to see a list like this with the percentage of repairs made for each vehicle to keep it on the road. Some vehicles may have 200,000 miles on them but who knows how many repairs there have been to achieve this. Some could have had complete engine and transmission rebuilds during this time period. It would probably be almost impossible to gather all of that information though.
There was a Consumer Reports list of the most reliable vehicles of the last decade in a thread on here recently. The 4Runner came in at number one. The list was dominated by Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura. I was surprised a Subaru wasn't on the list but it could have something to do with the infotainment systems causing them to be ranked lower like in JD Power.
If you want a reliable vehicle you should buy from a Japanese automaker. The newer GM and Ford vehicles have a lot of issues but GM and Ford is at least better than Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge.

 

[RUNTHAT]

Does this mean that we can no longer use the reliability excuse for why we don't get more power/updates?