This is how you fix congress

CXS

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Warren Buffett, "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.

Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

*Congressional Reform Act of 2011*

1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term's), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!! If you agree with the above, pass it on.
 
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hmmm , how about

"Corporations are not people and have no implicit constitutional guarantees or protections outside of the laws passed by congress"
 
Just kill/remove all politicians from all branches, dissolve the entire political party system and start it all from scratch. Sometimesa complete wipe and reinstall fixes things.
 
Just kill/remove all politicians from all branches, dissolve the entire political party system and start it all from scratch. Sometimesa complete wipe and reinstall fixes things.

Eh, Thailand has tried something similar (without killing politicians), and it hasn't done much. Be careful what you wish for...despite our issues, there is a much larger opportunity for things to be worse than better.

Better you just resolve yourself to the fact that politicians represent a very limited number of people and their special interests & that you can't do f-all to change it. Said limited number of people are entirely too rich & busy to be posting on internet forums.

In all seriousness though, looking through our history, disfunction is nothing new to the US government as the nature of man hasn't changed, only the amount of information available.
 
Eh, Thailand has tried something similar (without killing politicians), and it hasn't done much. Be careful what you wish for...despite our issues, there is a much larger opportunity for things to be worse than better.

Better you just resolve yourself to the fact that politicians represent a very limited number of people and their special interests & that you can't do f-all to change it. Said limited number of people are entirely too rich & busy to be posting on internet forums.

In all seriousness though, looking through our history, disfunction is nothing new to the US government as the nature of man hasn't changed, only the amount of information available.

The problem I have is most everyone in Congress is so ancient and out of touch with the real world. Most of these guys barely have an idea of what the internet is or constitutes and we are depending on these idiots to make legislation that affects digital information, privacy, and/or other technology that these Mitch Mconnells (my new word for ancient tortoise :P ) have no idea how to even power up their gadgets?

That among other reasons is why I think refreshing the roster of politicians (every last damn one of them, president to city mayor if need be) might not be a bad idea, some of these guys have outlived their context and yet they're still seated on one of the most powerful representative stations in the government.

The way I look at it is that the US operating system is curropt and broken to a point that "wiping and reinstalling" it is probably more beneficial than trying to patch job the current mess. Most anywhere else in life when something is that curropt/fragmented/dysfunctional we typically restart from the beginning instead of trying to stucco over it. I'm not saying completely change our system (though we do need to change many aspects) just that the current OS is too damaged to use and its better to just do a clean restart.
 
How about Warren Buffet should suck it and stop using his massive wealth to influence politicians and increase his massive wealth.

That old fart needs to drop dead and his ingrate children should blow his fortune on cars. All he does is buy politicians, he's a modern day Robber Baron who hides behind his charitable BS.
 
How about Warren Buffet should suck it and stop using his massive wealth to influence politicians and increase his massive wealth.

That old fart needs to drop dead and his ingrate children should blow his fortune on cars. All he does is buy politicians, he's a modern day Robber Baron who hides behind his charitable BS.


You sound really mean & ignorant. "He should drop dead" really?

Warran Buffet is giving 99% of his wealth to charity. He's pledged over 85 Billion to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. His kids are getting barely anything , although probably more than you or I have.

I think you meant to say George Soros, a liberal who spends Billlions on backing liberal causes. But you would know that if you knew what h3ll you are talking about.
 
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You sound really mean & ignorant. "He should drop dead" really?

Warran Buffet is giving 99% of his wealth to charity. He's pledged over 85 Billion to the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. His kids are getting barely anything , although probably more than you or I have.

I think you meant to say George Soros, a liberal who spends Billlions on backing liberal causes. But you would know that if you knew what h3ll you are talking about.


:bat:

His own wealth, yes. Not any of his corporate holdings, which he has used his tremendous influence in DC to squash any opposition.

I see his filthy, leaky, oil trains thundering through my back yard every day.

The guy is a fraud, just because he lives an austere life doesn't mean that he would wish austerity on his multibillion dollar conglomerates.

He's like Satan, the biggest con put on Americans.
 
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Can you at least provide some links for why he is like Satan?

Your comments are like - wow. I don't really know where it is coming from.
 
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The truth is that there is no easy fix. Congress is dysfunctional because we are dysfunctional. Congress spends too much because we (taken as a whole) spend too much, borrow too much, eat too much, demand too much. There are a lot of people in America who do have their act together, but taken as a whole we're really a mess.

The best thing about a Democracy is that the leadership reflects the people who elect them. The worst thing about a Democracy is that the leadership reflects the people who elect them.

That said, I think a couple things that would go a long way to at least improve the situation:

1. Term limits for congress. Two, maybe three terms at most, then they're out.

2. Presidential runoff: After the presidential election, if no candidate has more than 50% of the vote, a second election is held between the two candidates with the most votes. This would allow people to vote for third parties in the first election and vote for the candidate who is at least a little closer to their preference in the runoff.
 
The people we elect are not the problem nor all the rich and powerful. It is the system in which politicians work that we have no say or control over. It does not matter who you elect if you cant control what they do and let's face it they answer to no one. Just one mans opinion.
 

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