Hi everyone. I'm a newbie to this forum. The dealer recently stated that I need a throttle body, MAF sensor and fuel induction service for my 2015 TRD Pro for $400. They said that there was a lot of carbon buildup. I decided to research this and took the car home. Is this service necessary? Can I do it myself?
Throttle body, MAF sensor, fuel induction service
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nb rob
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I put a bottle of chevron injector cleaner in this year on my 2015.
And I took the MAF out and cleaned it with CRC MAF cleaner. It looked very clean when I removed it.
I sure as hell wouldn't pay $400 for that. $8 for chevron techron, and probably $10 for the MAF sensor cleaner that I've had for 5 years.
I use top tier detergent gasoline, but I'd be surprised if you had a lot of carbon buildup. Seems like an upsell to me.
And I took the MAF out and cleaned it with CRC MAF cleaner. It looked very clean when I removed it.
I sure as hell wouldn't pay $400 for that. $8 for chevron techron, and probably $10 for the MAF sensor cleaner that I've had for 5 years.
I use top tier detergent gasoline, but I'd be surprised if you had a lot of carbon buildup. Seems like an upsell to me.
97BlackAckCL
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Yep, sounds like total bs to me. I would bet they don't even replace the TB and just clean it and charge you 400 bucks. You'd be better off cleaning it yourself with some MAF/TB cleaner
1000MPH
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No! Did you bring it in because you are having issues with your truck or for routine service? As a rule, this is a completely unnecessary, easy money, add on for unscrupulous dealers padding the bill.
Maintain your truck per the Warranty and Maintenance Guide that came with it. Also don’t be fooled when the dealer tries to show you what looks like officials documents or printouts. Continue being skeptical.
Maintain your truck per the Warranty and Maintenance Guide that came with it. Also don’t be fooled when the dealer tries to show you what looks like officials documents or printouts. Continue being skeptical.
sandcrawler
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if it actually needed that service you'd know from the way it drives (poorly). if it's driving fine it is almost certainly a sleazy attempt to upsell you.
Bayou_Pro
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Nothing needs to be done. It's a common tactic of most dealers to make easy money. Trust me I used to work at one. Just do your normal maintenance and you'll be just fine. Oh also check and replace your own engine and cabin filters as needed. Another overpriced thing the dealer will hit you with.
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Orc
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I feel really violated when they pop it out and drag the filters into the waiting room to display and convince the entire room that this needs to be done and you're worthless if you don't pay that 60 per filter!
Bayou_Pro
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Wife came home the other day in her '18 TRD Pro after getting her oil changed, at my old dealer I worked for mind you, and announced they said I needed both the engine and cabin filters changed. I said you told them no right? She didn't!!! I pulled the filters and made a very unpleasant call to the service girl on my way back up there. When I arrived she had the old slightly dirty filters on her desk with my credit already done.
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Concurring with the other responses.
If in doubt, ask them to show you the issue.
Only two things I let the dealer do for regular maintenance.
1) Rotate tires (yeah they might break studs if they over torque them)
2) Oil change (sure they can mess it up, but I know who f’ed it up then)
The engine air filter and cabin air filter are a breeze to change and will save you big money.
Remember that many businesses will try to up sell, and it’s up to you know what you want.
tristero
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I brought mine into the dealer for the bad schrader valve and they tried to get this upsale at $350. Bastards never even fixed the tpms leaking schrader valve...
Along with what [MENTION=122813]nb rob[/MENTION] said regarding the MAF and injector cleaner, the throttle body is super easy to take out and clean using the CRC cleaner. Personally I do the MAF and sometimes the TB at the end of every summer as part of my pre winter maintenance.
Along with what [MENTION=122813]nb rob[/MENTION] said regarding the MAF and injector cleaner, the throttle body is super easy to take out and clean using the CRC cleaner. Personally I do the MAF and sometimes the TB at the end of every summer as part of my pre winter maintenance.
Lester Lugnut
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One of the Toyota dealers in my area started selling a "Brake Cleaning" service a few yrs. ago. I've seen this service listed on a board in the waiting room area that I have to pass thru in order to get to the Parts. Dept.
97BlackAckCL
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eelliiss
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Cleaning the MAF and throttle body aren't too hard if you don't mind undoing a couple of bolts. I believe there are a lot of write-ups in the 4th gen section, which are frequently completely congruent to our 5th gen 4Runners.
Here's a quick video on cleaning the throttle body: YouTube
The MAF sensor just requires undoing a couple fasteners, removing a couple screws, and using a can of MAF cleaner to spray things down.
Carbon buildup, as it seems as how they're describing it, is generally something to worry about in direct injection vehicles. All 4Runners have port injection.
Here's a quick video on cleaning the throttle body: YouTube
The MAF sensor just requires undoing a couple fasteners, removing a couple screws, and using a can of MAF cleaner to spray things down.
Carbon buildup, as it seems as how they're describing it, is generally something to worry about in direct injection vehicles. All 4Runners have port injection.
pDubs
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NO, do NOT put MAF cleaner or Throttle body cleaner in your gas tank.
themaestro
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I would encourage you to start doing your own maintenance. Its not difficult, and with $100 in tools you can do almost everything yourself. I just started doing it myself recently, its not difficult! And you'll realize what a rip off the dealer is.
I cleaned my MAF and throttle body at 75k. its about an hour job taking your time. The MAF looked brand new and the throttle body was barely dirty.
I cleaned my MAF and throttle body at 75k. its about an hour job taking your time. The MAF looked brand new and the throttle body was barely dirty.
Riders of Lohan
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You know what, I’ve changed my mind. Pay the dealer whatever they ask for whatever they suggest
DreamsOfDirt
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Fuel Induction Service and Engine Flush
I brought my 18' TRDOR into the dealer for service and they suggested "Engine Flush" for $70 and "Fuel Induction service" For $160.
Me: Is that part of the standard maintenance? (knowing the answer).
Service Manager: No, these are just dealer recommended services every 30k miles.
Me: "No thanks" (Thinking: THIS is why everyone hates dealers)
On a side note, standard maintenance was included for the first 60k when I bought the vehicle. One of the things included in the 30K service was changing the engine and cabin air filters. After they completed the work I head out to the truck and pull out the cabin air filter - dirty as hell. I bring it back in and provided them appropriate "feedback." The last thing the service manager says to me "I am really sorry about this (he should have stopped there..). I hope this doesn't negatively impact how you'll rate us on the survey Toyota sends out." Idiot.
I brought my 18' TRDOR into the dealer for service and they suggested "Engine Flush" for $70 and "Fuel Induction service" For $160.
Me: Is that part of the standard maintenance? (knowing the answer).
Service Manager: No, these are just dealer recommended services every 30k miles.
Me: "No thanks" (Thinking: THIS is why everyone hates dealers)
On a side note, standard maintenance was included for the first 60k when I bought the vehicle. One of the things included in the 30K service was changing the engine and cabin air filters. After they completed the work I head out to the truck and pull out the cabin air filter - dirty as hell. I bring it back in and provided them appropriate "feedback." The last thing the service manager says to me "I am really sorry about this (he should have stopped there..). I hope this doesn't negatively impact how you'll rate us on the survey Toyota sends out." Idiot.
