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Today is the day I am finally ordering new suspension for my 4runner. Will you guys please look over my order and make sure this should be good to go. The coil kit comes with front diff drop kit.

I was going to go with the Toytec Boss or Ultimate but would really like to save the money. Should I go that route instead? Is there anything I need to order? I know some people suggest new UCAs but I talked to my local shop and they said I shouldn't need them for this set-up?

I am 98% road driver. Should this be a decent on-road set-up?

Your help is greatly appreciated
 

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I have not done a lift so no expert
but I thought when you went to 3 inches you needed to extend brake lines, panhard and a few other things

I could be wrong, im still learning
 
You might be better off running TRD Tundra springs up front and OME 906s in the back. Some say you can get the TRD springs for as little as $90 a pair.
Speedy runs TRD Tundras up front and OME 906s in the rear. As far as those springs, if it truly gives 3", then you'll need a diff drop. However, I don't think OME kits are known to give the full amount advertised.

Speedy's Lift:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-0hMzv_RU
 
you should consider a Sonoran Steel lift kit. you get more including the diff drop and panhandle bar. It is about $1250 for the SS 1.2 kit.

Call Steve up and talk to him.

You also get real Toyota parts and a rig that is of road capable yet pleasant to drive on the roads. I also do 95% street driving but i take my rig out on real trails as well.

I have heard that the rear Bilstiens aren't that great and i wouldn't recommend them. Get the LC shocks instead.

I don't mean anything against Toytech but you aren't even buying their product. Their main product is their custom suspension kits but you are buying just OME and Bilstien parts. I think they only sell those parts to get more traffic to their website and also because many can't afford a full $1500+ Toytech Kit.

if you were buying the actual Toytech product then i would not recommend calling Steve but in this case you aren't and i think he sells better coil and shock kit.

Also read this ... lots of good info
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/66976-3rd-gen-4runner-lift-information-faqs.html
 
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Yea I like the idea of the TRD Tundra coils and 5100s I just dont have the resources, tools, space, etc... to do the lift myself.

I am having a shop do it and am afraid it would cost me quite a bit more to have them do all that, even if they would do it at all.

Maybe I would be better off getting what ToyTec makes themselves (the Boss or Ultimate).

I also contemplated the OME full suspension setup from Wheelers Offroad.

OME Complete Suspension System for 96-02 4Runner

This kit comes with SS extended brake lines. Is this a necessity for a 2 in lift? How hard is the install on them?
 
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I was going to go OME springs and 5100's as well but after reading too much here I have decided to go SS 1.2 or ultimate. I figure I may as well spend the cash up front on a good set up so I'm not changing everything out later and spending more money. I do like that Sonoran Steel offer up all the brackets, pan hard etc in their package whereas the Toytech it's an additional cost.

From what I have read here it seems the OME complete setup is very stiff, I would do some searching on that subject.
 
Not sure if money is the issue but I would go with the coilovers up front with the bilstein shocks and the superflex or LC coils out back. IMO its the best overall setup. The TRD's up front dont give the lift I like with added bumper and winch.
 
Ok I just talked to one of the reps with Toytec.

I think he has convinced me to go with the Boss with the 550 lb Eibach coils for the front. In the rear I am going to go with the OME 60073 shocks and the Toytec 9602RC 3'in coils.

Said this would give me the best overall on-road ride. Said the brake lines should be fine as long as I'm not really stretching offroad.


What are you guys opinion on UCAs. Should I go with aftermarket or will I be fine with stock? I do have and will run the spidertrax 1.25 spacers. I could definitely handle saving the 400 dollars but want to be set up right.

Thanks!
 
how many miles on your stock UCAs?

I'd say take the $400 and put it in your front end lift.

What size tires will you run?

What wheels?

285s and wheel spacers are not a good combination. I KNOW from first hand and I am far from the only one.

You will hit the fenders at full flex and bend them causing body damage AND you will rub bad on the pinch welds. All of this is BC of spacers plus 285s.
 
I have some 2015 SR5 wheels off a 4runner i plan on running. I was thinking 275 70 17.

Good to know about the 285s.

The UCAs have 155000
 
sport05 said:
Yea I like the idea of the TRD Tundra coils and 5100s I just dont have the resources, tools, space, etc... to do the lift myself.

I am having a shop do it and am afraid it would cost me quite a bit more to have them do all that, even if they would do it at all.

Maybe I would be better off getting what ToyTec makes themselves (the Boss or Ultimate).

I also contemplated the OME full suspension setup from Wheelers Offroad.

OME Complete Suspension System for 96-02 4Runner

This kit comes with SS extended brake lines. Is this a necessity for a 2 in lift? How hard is the install on them?
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As one of the guys around here that has the SS 1.2 let me say this man. The SS 1.2 is completely worth it imho. The LC shocks have been great, its an easy install. you don't even need anything more than basic tools, 2 jack stands and a jack. YES THE REAR BRAKE LINE IS A MUST! Otherwise its going to pull on that rubber once you hit full droop. Just my .02 man, but I have found that since having mine on, its been great, and the customer service/support was irreplaceable.
 
sport05 said:
Do the 285s run well without the spacers on this setup?
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285s are more about wheel backspacing.

OEM 3rd gen wheels are 4.625" I believe.

4" Backspacing is ideal for 285 and stock UCA.

I am running 285s with 5100s all around, TRD up front, OME 890 in the rear with no rubbing. Obviously you need to pound the pinch weld over and then do a tiny trim on the front bumper (not noticeable unless you point it out).
 
sport05 said:
What are you guys opinion on UCAs. Should I go with aftermarket or will I be fine with stock? I do have and will run the spidertrax 1.25 spacers. I could definitely handle saving the 400 dollars but want to be set up right.

Thanks!
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I just installed the Total Chaos UCAs on my 97 (http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/197994-yet-another-build-thread-97-2wd.html)

I would def recommend to go with them at some time or another, but make sure that the shocks you put on there are matched to use all of the added travel.
 
I'll 3rd, or 4th or whatever, the SS 1.2

Steve has put together a great kit. I was able to install it myself mostly smoothly. The rear was definitely harder than the front, but doable by one person with fairly common mechanic's tools, ie breaker bar, torque wrench, sockets, jack and stands, etc

I paid the extra $$ to have my fronts assembled by Steve. I'm sure I could have done this myself too, but I'm slow. Adding that would have made my front install take more than the single weekend it took. (No I didn't spend all day Sat and Sun on it. A couple hours each day). I also did the skidplate modifications during the week after work.

My motivation was not lift. I mostly wanted to fix the sagging rear end on my 98. Since I knew the OEM stuff was under engineered, I wanted to improve on stock. I do like to hike and hunt, so having the improved off road performance is a big plus though. :)
 
Ill 4th or 5th the SS 1.2. I just did the lift and couldn't be happier. The install wasn't to bad but did take me 2 days. I started later in the afternoon on sat and finished the front in a few hours. than finished up the rear on sunday. I also had steve put the shocks together because I didn't want to deal with it which made the install much easier. My time is money so it was money well spent. The PO had the 2 inch puck lift so I had 265/70r17 wrangler ats on there but I wanted a 33 inch tire. After much debate between the new BF Goodrich ko2 AT and the Cooper St MAXX I went with the cooper as the had the tall skinny tires. I went with the 255/80r17 with the tundra 5 split spoke rims. the PO also had a 1 inch spacer( I think I will look this weekend to get the actual size). I love it so far. no rubbing on road and haven't had it flexing yet but im sure ill need to trim something. The Coopers are quiet on the road and look awesome.

After the lift I did get the truck aligned and my caster was maxed out and almost back to stock. But living in Hawaii it has be able to go back to stock so I just order the LR upper control arms from Fat bobs. I will be putting them in this weekend. Ill be adding it with pictures when I do it. hope that helps add to the confusion of which set up to do. PM if any questions. You can easily do it in your garage with jack and jack stands and a simple set of hand tools

--Lud
 
Well its official.

I ordered the Boss with the 550 lb coils in the front, diff drop kit, Toytec 9602RC 3in rear coils, and OME 60073 rear schocks, LR upper control arms, and bumb stop drop spacers.

I was on the fence about the UCAs but you guys talked me into it. Thanks for all the input. The 1.2 does look like a nice kit.

Now I need some input on tire size. I am going with the BF goodrich AT KO2s. Trying to decide between 275 70 17 or 285 70 17s. Any suggestions?
 
Piecing together your own kit actually runs really close to the price of buying one that is already assembled. IMHO I suggest starting with the SS 1.2 or Toytec, install it and then make alterations from there. The best part of the SS 1.2 kit is all the EXTRA pieces you get. Those are the parts that add up in cost and you WILL need them more that you think you will at this point. I ended up doing a mix of the SS and the Toytec kits which I had to piece together myself and I really do like it. Coming from a Rubicon Express lifted Jeep XP, a lifted 4Runner is in a whole other class... the comfort class.....

There's always someone out there wanting to buy used lift parts, go with a kit, test it out and if you don't like something about, swap it out, but trust me, you wont regret it.
 
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