Toyota Safety Sense for 4runner?
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LAMGOESHAM
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How does it make it more difficult to modify? You really only mod suspension/wheels etc. Those are electronics that don't really interfere?
Jetboy
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It works beautifully on my Lexus. It's totally sorted out on new cars. I use it almost exclusively on full auto mode. The cameras are much better than they once were. They can judge distance, light color, etc. The Subaru binocular vision system is the best of any I've driven. GM's is the worst. Toyota's problem is that they take for fawking ever to trickle tech into some models like the 4Runner. While other ones like the Carolla get it right away. I understand that the Carolla is the world's best selling car - so it is priority #1 globally, but there's no reason we can't get pretty basic tech that's already a generation old in our vehicles.
mtnbiker49
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Worked great on the Rogue I drove.
flyrv9
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Ok, I stand corrected maybe! Even if all these systems work flawlessly - are they really necessary? Also, what happens when one of these systems malfunctions? In the case of auto-dim headlights - probably not a big deal. But, what about adaptive cruise control or lane assist? Suppose a sensor or computer fails - do you get a warning of some kind, or does the system disable its self and inform you? How about when the car ages - will these systems function as expected after years of use and an accident or two. Once the used car market is flooded - good luck.
I'm sure there is a market for these type of things - but if I'm going to be responsible - then I want to be in control.
I'm sure there is a market for these type of things - but if I'm going to be responsible - then I want to be in control.
Besides the camshaft tower oil leak, the TSS is the reason I have not bought a 2018 Tundra yet. A lot of Tundra owners are having issues, especially if lifted or leveled.
From the Tundra board;
https://www.tundras.com/threads/2018-tundra-pre-collision-code-issues.19312/
https://www.tundras.com/threads/tss-pre-collision-system-malfunction.29701/
https://www.tundras.com/threads/cam-shaft-tower-seal-leaking-please-read.20102/
From the Tundra board;
https://www.tundras.com/threads/2018-tundra-pre-collision-code-issues.19312/
https://www.tundras.com/threads/tss-pre-collision-system-malfunction.29701/
https://www.tundras.com/threads/cam-shaft-tower-seal-leaking-please-read.20102/
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ayeyothisiskyle
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I just want the rear cross traffic sensors. My friend's old Rav4 had it and it was so helpful in that little thing. Imagine it in a 4runner.
MSU_Spartan
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I’d be curious as well since none of these safety features are listed as an option on the Toyota website for any model 4Runner?? Looks like to me their web design person mixed up some of the text as this is similar in other vehicles like the Rav.
bowhun2r
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I have a 2018 Tundra with the TSS. I have the limited and I put the TRD pro suspension on it which (most as most know) levels out the truck. Essentially, about a 2-2.25 inch lift. There are lots of folks on tundras.com that have done this and 3/1 lifts w/o issue (and even higher). That being said... there are others that have had issues (even w/o lift kits). Seems more like a hit and miss.
We did a trip from Pittsburgh to Nashville in the Tundra with the TSS and radar cruise control. For me... I couldn't stand it. Way too sensitive (even when decreasing the distance in front of you via the steering wheel control) and going on a bend on the highway in the passing lane would every now and then trigger the "BRAKE" screen and alerts because it was picking up the semi in the right lane and it thought it was right in front of me (that will also wake up the wife in the passenger seat...fyi). I'm old. I prefer to just enjoy the drive and pay attention to the road instead of looking at my phone. It wasn't until we got back home that I searched up how to disable the radar cruise control. BTW...it's not exactly evident on how to do that... you need to depress the cruise control button for a few seconds to go back to non-radar mode (aka old man cruise control).
I get safety safety safety... that being said, I've been extremely fortunate not to be the cause of an accident nor be apart of a non-fault accident. I get what the safety features are trying to do... in this particular case I'd prefer to just turn them off.
LAMGOESHAM
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https://www.toyota.com/deals/4runner/
Click on "View Details" of the 750 rebate
Likely they probably messed up
bowhun2r
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You can see if TSS is on the vehicle by checking out the Yota emblem on the grill. If it's the same as you are used too... it doesn't have it. If you see a solid piece of plastic over the Yota emblem...you do have it.
If you have a Pro truck, there is a solid square piece of plexiglass under the TOYOTA. That's TSS. You can see it pretty easily on the 2019 TRD-Pro Tundra grill. You won't see it on the 2019 T4R Pro grill...
Bumbo
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Depending on what you want to do, I could see these potentially getting in the way of various mods.
Bumpers, tire carries, or other modifications might obstruct sensors... I certainly wouldn't want any bumper bars or lights obstructing adaptive cruise or collision sensors.
Angle of rake and changes that come from a lift could cause issues with sensors for lighting. Zero point and yaw / rate sensors are already thrown off calibration with a lift that tends to sway more and my roof rack. Its easier to get my truck to “beep beep beep” during aggressive driving even if it still feels stable on road.
Not saying it will, but there is potential for unwanted issues due to mods the more complicated these cars and trucks get.
If you want a city truck, who cares, but those who want to modify to their hearts content will eventually meet a hurdle with all this extra stuff.
