Toytec 3" Lift selection

[jpontius]

Hey guys. After looking for 3 months, I finally found the right T4R for me, so now it's time to sink a stupid amount of money into it! I got brakes (slotted rotors and EBC pads), and tires (Toyo 265 A/Ts), and I'm thinkin a 3" lift is next. I read through the lift kit sticky, which was helpful, but I'm still having a hard time deciding which way to go.

At first, the 3" kit with front and rear OME coils looked like the way to go, but then I read that you really have to go with longer travel shocks to get the full travel advantage. Makes sense, and especially since my shocks are original (100k miles), I think I could use some new ones. My question is this: should I go with the "Complete" kit with spacers that comes with OME shock and coils or is it worth the extra $ for the ultimate lift? Any other good, less expensive options?

The complete kit, spacers, and assembly would come to about $860, which is quite a bit more than the $390 for just the coils. Worth it?

And for only $140 more, I could get the Ultimate Lift with adjustable coilovers. Any significant advantage to this?

Also, I'm not entirely confident that I have the means to do the installation. If I get the complete kit, assembled, is it a simple drop-in lift? Would I need any special tools for the install? I've got impacts and wrenches and stuff, but no coil compressor.

I'm not made of money by any means, but I don't want to regret not spending an extra few bucks to get the right ride characteristics and capability. I only want to do this once!

Thanks for the help, guys!

 

[01t4rnr]

If youre patient the Tundra coilovers can be found for $100-200 and if youre lucky will have very few miles on them. Or you could buy my 3" Revtek for $100 shipped :biggrin2:

 

[ToyTec Lifts]

The adjustable coilovers in the Ultimate Kit are really nice and will ride the best. If you even plan on getting a bumper or winch, you can set the coilovers at the height you want now and then when you get the bumper, you can adjust them back up to regain the height lost from the extra weight. I have the coilovers on my 97 and i love them. The OME's or Tundra are cheaper but i like being able to play with the ride height and compensate for any lean or sag.

:thumb3:
Dylan

 

[jpontius]

Thanks for the input Dylan. As far as installation goes, if I were to get either the complete kit (assembled) or the ultimate kit, what tools would be required? What are the biggest challenges?

 

[brian2sun]

You just need basic tools (wrenches and sockets), a floor jack and maybe a block of wood to help flex the rear to get the new coils in. The biggest challenge for the front would be getting the new (longer) struts or coilovers in. The best trick is to unbolt the hub from the lower ball joint (just 4 - 14mm bolts) and that will allow the lower control arm to move down much futher so you can line up the bottom shock bolt.

 

[criera]

fwiw if you get the ultimate kit, the front coilovers are already assembled so you really dont need the spring tool thing. Hardest part (not that hard) was using a prybar to get the upper control arm down enought to bolt it im.

Ive got nothing to compare it to, but i am very happy with the ultimate kit.

 

[brian2sun]

Hardest part (not that hard) was using a prybar to get the upper control arm down enought to bolt it im.

That's why removing the 4 bolts on the LBJs is better. You bolt the top in 1st then you can just put your foot on the lower control arm to line up the lower shock bolt. Then you don't have to pry on anything. I've put on a few lifts on 3rd gens now and this way always makes it easier.

 

[mharding]

I'm eventually going to get the Toytec ultimate lift kit. I like it because it is the complete kit to do a lift right and the coil overs make it a simple swap out. No spring compressors necessary.

 

[Gerdo]

As already said, the COs give you the ability to set the exact height of the front. Now and latter. If you are looking at only $150 difference then go for it. I would strongly suggest the 600# coils.

 

[1badrunner]

^^ why would you suggest the 600# over the 650#? I plan on ordering this kit with 650# silver coils, ome 891 in rear, and bilstien 5150 in rear.

This seems best for my needs (heavy front bumper, towing, hauling, wheeling, etc.)

Would that not be ideal?

 

[Gerdo]

The softer the coil the more it will flex. 550# are nice in the rocks but a little too soft for a DD on road. The 650# are too stiff.

 

[1badrunner]

Noted. Thanks for your reply.

Should I not go with the 891's and 5150's?

 

[Gerdo]

I'm very happy with my 891s. The 890s flex better but the 891s carry more weight.

 

[GTEE1997]

That's why removing the 4 bolts on the LBJs is better. You bolt the top in 1st then you can just put your foot on the lower control arm to line up the lower shock bolt. Then you don't have to pry on anything. I've put on a few lifts on 3rd gens now and this way always makes it easier.

I will be doing this mod soon, so I appreciate this tip. Thanks!

 

[mtbtim]

Thanks for the input Dylan. As far as installation goes, if I were to get either the complete kit (assembled) or the ultimate kit, what tools would be required? What are the biggest challenges?

Ask and you shall receive. [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] have a video for you. We installed a complete Toytec lift for another member so you can see all the tools and steps needed to complete the job. Good Luck and Happy Wrenching!

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[theesotericone]

Hey guys. After looking for 3 months, I finally found the right T4R for me, so now it's time to sink a stupid amount of money into it! I got brakes (slotted rotors and EBC pads), and tires (Toyo 265 A/Ts), and I'm thinkin a 3" lift is next. I read through the lift kit sticky, which was helpful, but I'm still having a hard time deciding which way to go.

At first, the 3" kit with front and rear OME coils looked like the way to go, but then I read that you really have to go with longer travel shocks to get the full travel advantage. Makes sense, and especially since my shocks are original (100k miles), I think I could use some new ones. My question is this: should I go with the "Complete" kit with spacers that comes with OME shock and coils or is it worth the extra $ for the ultimate lift? Any other good, less expensive options?

The complete kit, spacers, and assembly would come to about $860, which is quite a bit more than the $390 for just the coils. Worth it?

And for only $140 more, I could get the Ultimate Lift with adjustable coilovers. Any significant advantage to this?

Also, I'm not entirely confident that I have the means to do the installation. If I get the complete kit, assembled, is it a simple drop-in lift? Would I need any special tools for the install? I've got impacts and wrenches and stuff, but no coil compressor.

I'm not made of money by any means, but I don't want to regret not spending an extra few bucks to get the right ride characteristics and capability. I only want to do this once!

Thanks for the help, guys!

I have the Toytec/Bilstein kit on my rig and am very happy with it. Springs are Eibach #620. I just put on a plate bumper and winch. It rides damn near perfect for me.

The total kit was about 750. They will pre-assemble the coilovers for an extra 100 bucks or so. I've ridden in a lot of rigs with OME and prefer the ride that the toytec springs and eibach coils give me. That's all very subjective though. So find some folks in your area that have both of those installed and go bomb some washboards. Then find someone with 2.5 remote resi's installed and bomb some washboards. If you're like me you'll like the ride of larger shocks better. They ride pretty sweet. But since I wanted a locker, bumper, sliders, and armor I went the cheaper route. I'm glad I did for now.

As far as the install goes it's pretty straight forward. A lot of it will come down to how rusted your rig is and how good you are at turning a wrench. Do some research on this site and you'll be fine with whatever you decide to go with.