Toytec Ultimate vs Toytec/Bilstein setup

Thanks. I do plan on putting a C4 fab lo pro bumper and winch and eventually a second battery. I want about a 2" lift in the front and whatever it takes to bring it level in the rear. That's why I was looking at the performance b/c of the 2.5" coilover seeming to be a better long term option.

I am looking for a step up from the bilstein shocks but not looking to spend the money for icon or king set up.
I thought toytec would be a good idea b/c they are CO based if i have issues.

I do plan to talk to RSG and Slee as soon as i put my order in for the T4R.
I was actually hoping to wait for a 2018, partially to have the newest possible model but also so i could get all my tools out of the garage. But I'm going to have to start spending money on keeping my current vehicle on the road and i have no desire to throw money away.

If you're asking why I'm figuring all this out for a car I don't own... I'm a project manager - anal retentiveness is in my nature. :P

Nothing wrong with planning ahead :D I did the same thing before I bought my 4Runner.

Being I'm in CO I love the idea of supporting a CO company. At the end of the day its still my hard earned money.

The support aspect depends on how you have them installed. If you went to Slee Offroad and they did the install, they would be your first call. They do install ToyTec and have good knowledge of the product line. They would try to fix the issue and work with the vendor. Any good shop should work that way.

If you buy direct from ToyTec and install it yourself, then your first call is to ToyTec and you work with them.

Here are some thoughts ... I do speak PM ... LOL

It sounds like you'v'e defined the requirements pretty well.

Have you decided on the install path yet? DIY or Shop? That will lead straight into how you end up getting service. If you have the work done a good shop, it won't matter where the vendor is located. The shop does that for you.

Are you good with the risk level take on by going with rebuildable coilovers? Yes they are great, but they take care and feeding. They will need to be serviced/rebuilt at some point. They are designed to fail and be rebuilt. This in turn leads to the service interval. What are the service intervals on the shocks you are looking at? Can you take on the risk of having your 4Runner down for at least two weeks while the work is done? Don't forget about the cost around it.

Are non-rebuildable coilovers more in your risk profile? They still provide the same function just without the custom features. They are also designed to be disposable. Use them for 40-80k (or what ever) and get ones. In theory this leads to design that should hold up longer then a rebuildable coilover. When they get worn out you order a new set or maybe try a different vendor.

Removing the rake is personal preference, but can impact the suspension choice. Full disclosure, I like the rake. I'm looking at a 2in lift from Dobinsons (front and rear to keep the rake). Their springs have a compression rate around 1/4in per 100lbs. The use case is you're going camping or skiing. Load up all your gear, pets, people and full tank of fuel. It doesn't take much to put 2-300lbs or more on the rear axle. Even more if your friends REALLY enjoy beer .. haha. Your rear end now drops 1/2-3/4in or maybe 1in. This may not sound like a lot, but it will look like your 4Runner has droopy drawers ... just saying. You can stop this by getting stiffer springs, but you loose ride quality when empty.
 
Have you decided on the install path yet? DIY or Shop?

Shop. I will probably go with RSG as they are closer to me.

Are you good with the risk level take on by going with rebuildable coilers?

I'm not sold on either. Would probably want non-rebuildable. I'm just looking for best value for my $$ and application and I don't mind spending an extra $600 to get better performance (that I would actually see). And, I would prefer not to have the truck down for two weeks.

From research here, it seems that OME would be too stiff for what I'll put on the truck (slim bumper, winch, sliders, extra battery, rocketbox or similar).
Not a lot of real world feedback on Dobinsons yet it seems... and that color...

I guess I just need to talk to RSG. It's just difficult to find time to get out there during the week.
 
Sorry to resurrect an old thread... I currently have the Bilstein 5100's all around with Toytec 112-620 front springs. What is the max I can lift without needing new UCA's and keeping it on a low budget? Daystar spacers seem to be a good budget option, but would I need new UCA's?

Thanks!

How much lift did you get from the 112-620s?
 
Hey all looking for a little help,

I have a 2011 4Runner limited. I’m interested in installing a 6112/5160 Bilstein suspension for a 3/2 lift. I am having trouble finding part numbers for this lift. When I visit certain sights it says the 5160 rear shocks won’t fit my 4Runner model. Any suggestions or direction I should go? Or suggestions for a different lift that would get me to where to what I want?
I did search the threads but couldn’t find the exact info I was looking for. Thanks in advance (I would post somewhere else but I can’t post a new thread).
 
Hey all looking for a little help,

I have a 2011 4Runner limited. I’m interested in installing a 6112/5160 Bilstein suspension for a 3/2 lift. I am having trouble finding part numbers for this lift. When I visit certain sights it says the 5160 rear shocks won’t fit my 4Runner model. Any suggestions or direction I should go? Or suggestions for a different lift that would get me to where to what I want?
I did search the threads but couldn’t find the exact info I was looking for. Thanks in advance (I would post somewhere else but I can’t post a new thread).

Look in 5th gen 4runner section.Are you looking for bilstein Model: 25-227611? I'll get you started.
5th Gen 4Runner Lift Buyers Guide
 
Awesome thanks for the help. I’m wondering if I’m getting the “not compatible with your vehicle “ message due to the fact that it has XREAS on it. I’ll keep digging into it. Thanks again.
 

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