TSA allows knives back on airplanes.

bofa

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I meant to post this earlier but forgot... did you guys see this?

Under the new rules, knives with blades that are 2.36 inches (6 centimeters) or shorter and less than a 1/2 inch wide will be allowed in airline cabins as long as the blade is not fixed or does not lock into place. Razor blades and box cutters are still prohibited. The rules also allow passengers to carry two golf clubs, toy bats or other sports sticks -- such as ski poles, hockey sticks, lacrosse sticks and pool cues -- aboard in carry-on luggage.

TSA stands by knife decision - CNN.com

I have mixed opinions about this... but do know that I will probably begin to carry one again when I travel.
 
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eh people carry plastic self defense weapons disguised as combs etc anyway... and a pen in the right place can kill just as easily.
 
Anything can be a weapon in the wrong hands. I think this is a positive move, things are starting to swing back towards the "normal" end of the spectrum finally. It's been over 11 years since 9-11 happened, it's about time I'd say.
 
What struck me as odd what the justification (in the original press release) saying that a pocket knife is no longer a threat, that terrorist would use explosives or other means if they wanted to use airliners again, that the new security door features are enough to keep cockpits secure, and that it was too cumbersome expensive to enforce the restriction. It came across as dismissive... just like we used to be dismissive about Taliban and box cutters.

I tend to think in terms of pros/cons about everything, and I won't say this is the wrong decision, but the explanation seems dubious. A small knife is plenty capable of killing. That new door is only as safe as those that have access. Could a pilot or attendant be coerced in the right situation? If it's so expensive, why not inconvenience or fine offenders? I bet a 2 hour "processing delay" would help people remember... and fines for subsequent violations would cover the expense.

I don't know. You guys know I'm a big gun rights advocate, so why would I balk at reducing restrictions such as these? Maybe because it's supposedly a screened area... a level playing field if you will, which is different than the streets and stores we frequent.

I agree, in the wrong hands, many commonplace items become weapons.

I also acknowledge there are no guarantees of safety, regardless of the security measures in place. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Like I said, mixed opinions, no right or wrong... just indifferent. Hopefully all is well and it's a non-issue for years to come.
 
It's great that they're letting you board the plane with a tiny pocket knife. It's a start.

Personally though, I'm still waiting for the day when I can board the plane with dignity.
 
I know it would NEVER happen, but we need to start learning from the Israelis about their airport security. They use behavioral analysis and common sense(imagine that?) security measures that are pretty darn effective. This article is pretty interesting...
 
Airliners are now a "hard target," IMO. Passengers of the hijacked planes on 9/11 generally had no idea what was coming. And when they figured it out (Flight 93), they actually brought down the plane and foiled the terrorist's plans.

Passengers, today, won't sit still during an attempted hijacking like they did on 9/11. That, coupled with the pilots being barricaded behind more secure cockpit doors, means a commercial jet hijacking isn't worth as much effort as it might have been before 9/11.

If you want to talk about boarding a plane without dignity, try flying armed and having a TSA rep call out to another that they have an "armed LEO" and need a supervisor, in front of all the other folks who will be sitting with you on a two-hour flight. Nothing like dreaming about someone driving a pencil through your ear and into your brain from behind, then taking your weapon, to keep you alert.
 
I know it would NEVER happen, but we need to start learning from the Israelis about their airport security. They use behavioral analysis and common sense(imagine that?) security measures that are pretty darn effective. This article is pretty interesting...

Thats a good article but there are 2 reasons that would never fly in the States, money and convenience.

First, all those precautions would cost quite a bit to implement and maintain. I'm all for it, but they aren't anywhere near as important to Americans as having a new redesigned entrance or some other aesthetic gadget to make it seem cooler than it is. Regardless of increased safety and convenience, Americans are a self-centered, vain people and have misplaced priorities.

Second, Americans don't seem to feel "free" unless they are complaining about how their rights are being violated. If they implemented just the incoming vehicle precautions Americans would have a conniption fit. They would rather risk being blown up on a plane than be inconvenienced or delayed when entering or leaving the airport.

Air travel is a luxury, not a "right" and (I think) we need to be more grateful for the ability to fly and allow the authorities to do what they need to do to make it as safe as possible.
 

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