Tuning/power adders?

Plumbrunner

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Just looking around to see what’s available and what’s “Reliable” if anything is out there for tuning etc. I know this isn’t a race machine but a few extra horse wouldn’t hurt. It always made a huge diff in my trucks. It won’t affect my buying decision , just curious.
 
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Just looking around to see what’s available and what’s “Reliable” if anything is out there for tuning etc. I know this isn’t a race machine but a few extra horse wouldn’t hurt. It always made a huge diff in my trucks. It won’t affect my buying decision , just curious.

So far, from what I have gathered, the most reliable power adder is using 93 octane gas. Next would be the TRD intake and finally, a larger exhaust. I am unsure about tuning as I believe the ECU has not been cracked.
 
What got me thinking was reading a thread and someone posted about all of the weight some people add on such as sliders, skids, bumpers, roof racks, tires etc. it would be nice to try and offset that extra weight a little bit with some more hp.

If the ecu hasn't been cracked all that tells me is most likely its not a big enough market for the tuners to invest Time in?
 
Up until recently (like the last two month or so) there was really nothing for power or tuning for the 1grFE dual VVTI. The only option for more get up and go was gears. And boy do these things need that when you pile on the weight and tires...

Anyway, things have changed recently... but its sort of go big or go home...

Two supercharger kits have hit the market. Magnuson and URD. URD is claiming something like 130RWHP gains at 5.5 PSI and magnuson is more like 80-100 RWHP. To put that in perspective, the URD claim would mean well over 400hp as a factory HP rating. The Magnuson one does include a powertrain warranty (I think) if you have a new vehicle. I have the Magnuson on mine, but I have 80k on the truck and no warranty.

For tuning... There are a few things. Magnuson has the keys and they tune the ECU (they were basically the TRD kits before anyway) , there are also a few tuners (two that I know of) that supposedly have a way as well. Although, I have not heard of them actually tuning a 5th gen. They tune lots of Tundras.. and claim they can also tune the 1grFE... However, non of them have canned tunes available yet that I know of.

URD uses the piggyback approach where they have an ECU that sits in the middle and does the fueling and timing for the supercharged setup. Think it is called the UCON-EMS.. For more minor stuff they have a MAF calibrator (but that is just going to be small tweaks).

Bottom line, the air intakes and what not will make no real difference, but things are changing now (finally, after many years of waiting)

The reliability of these kits is still obviously in question. At only 5-6 psi it should not be a problem with the right tuning. The motors seem to be pretty strong, but they do have high static compression and pretty lightweight pistons. Plus you are talking about 5-6k at least for a supercharger.
 
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Just put in a high flow air filter and an aftermarket exhaust. I used a TRD air filter and am debating on which exhaust but leaning towards a URD Y-Pipe and catback exhaust
 
best bet would be to watch your weight. Don't just go adding bumpers, racks huge tires, or 300 lbs of storage crap in the trunk if you don't need to. People will say their performance is still the same with all these add ons, its not. I added some of these things and I have been thinking hard about going back to near stock.
 
For all intensive purposes I’ll be adding a c4fab
Low pro front bumper,(with lights) rock rails, more skids,
Method 17” bead lockers, 285’s.
King suspension w/reservoirs.

Won’t do a roof rack until I need and most likely won’t. Just doesn’t fit my needs. I have a bad ass Thule i can use if needed.

Same with rear bumper, won’t ever put one on unless I needed it but can’t see me adding it.

Won’t be adding drawers, storage stuff etc.
 
OV tuning may be worth watching as they work on the tunes for our 1gr 5th gens. This will be a “hand held” tuner with I believe 5 different tunes to choose from as well as the factory tune. Tacoma World has several threads working for the OV tuned 2gr 3rd gen Tacomas and also the 1gr 2nd gen Tacomas. Looks promising....
Hope a thread can be stared here as these become available for our 5th gen 4runners.

https://www.ovtuned.com/products/copy-of-toyota-tacoma-4-0l-1grfe-handheld-tuner
 
OV tuning may be worth watching as they work on the tunes for our 1gr 5th gens. This will be a “hand held” tuner with I believe 5 different tunes to choose from as well as the factory tune. Tacoma World has several threads working for the OV tuned 2gr 3rd gen Tacomas and also the 1gr 2nd gen Tacomas. Looks promising....
Hope a thread can be stared here as these become available for our 5th gen 4runners.

https://www.ovtuned.com/products/copy-of-toyota-tacoma-4-0l-1grfe-handheld-tuner

They are one of the two of that I have heard about working on it... There should be something in the coming months...
 
OVT is about a month or two away.

They're pretty respected in the Miata community.

It'd be cool if they could adjust the over-rich, super conservative vvti advance tables of the stock tune and get us to 300hp/300tq/22mpg hwy.

That'd really shut up the 4.7l v8 guys lol.

Any tune gains would likely require us to stop using 87 octane tho.
 
Just bumping this. Anyone have anymore info about OVTuning for the T4R? Not seeing any reference at all on their site. Link above is dead.
 
Some of the ''feel'' that these trucks are underpowered can be removed with the Pedal Commander.........it really makes the power more accessible and gives it a responsive feel to the throttle that the stock throttle won't give without mashing it.:banana:
 
Anyone buy and install any of these flash tunes?

Vivid Racing: https://www.vividracing.com/tuned-ecu-flash-tune-toyota-4runner-dual-vvti-270hp-p-152468369.html

Tuning Tech FS: Toyota ECU Tune

I’ve also followed Orange Virus tuning they did on the Tacoma and they say they may have something for 4runner during the winter (whenever that might be). They’re work seems more comprehensive as they touch trans shift points etc...

I’d love to hear from anyone running these. I’m not interested in talking about Pedal Commander if these tunes address throttle response and other things like shifting, power, and torque.
 
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Im going to call Vivid today. Im not too far from them so i could take the 4R to them to do this.

Anyone here ever actually do an ECU flash? Seems popular on the Tacoma

4R really needs some help to get more get up and go. Im sure the Pedal Commander would give the illusion off the line etc. but it seems “really” tuning the ECU should cover all aspects of driving

Thoughts? Opinions? Any questions i should ask them to weed through any BS?


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I received response from Orange Virus tuning and May is starting on the 4Runner Tune. Not sure when it will be available but his approach seems more extensive than other box tunes. I’m hopeful Mat will have a version available soon.
 
Up until recently (like the last two month or so) there was really nothing for power or tuning for the 1grFE dual VVTI. The only option for more get up and go was gears. And boy do these things need that when you pile on the weight and tires...

Anyway, things have changed recently... but its sort of go big or go home...

Two supercharger kits have hit the market. Magnuson and URD. URD is claiming something like 130RWHP gains at 5.5 PSI and magnuson is more like 80-100 RWHP. To put that in perspective, the URD claim would mean well over 400hp as a factory HP rating. The Magnuson one does include a powertrain warranty (I think) if you have a new vehicle. I have the Magnuson on mine, but I have 80k on the truck and no warranty.

For tuning... There are a few things. Magnuson has the keys and they tune the ECU (they were basically the TRD kits before anyway) , there are also a few tuners (two that I know of) that supposedly have a way as well. Although, I have not heard of them actually tuning a 5th gen. They tune lots of Tundras.. and claim they can also tune the 1grFE... However, non of them have canned tunes available yet that I know of.

URD uses the piggyback approach where they have an ECU that sits in the middle and does the fueling and timing for the supercharged setup. Think it is called the UCON-EMS.. For more minor stuff they have a MAF calibrator (but that is just going to be small tweaks).

Bottom line, the air intakes and what not will make no real difference, but things are changing now (finally, after many years of waiting)

The reliability of these kits is still obviously in question. At only 5-6 psi it should not be a problem with the right tuning. The motors seem to be pretty strong, but they do have high static compression and pretty lightweight pistons. Plus you are talking about 5-6k at least for a supercharger.


Sorry to resurrect an old thread but thought your supercharger post was interesting. How is your fuel economy though with it installed?
 

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