Valentine 1 Detector StartUp Issue

[3kushn]

My V1 Gen 2 plugged into the cigarette lighter socket on a 2021 Limited has to be manually turned on after the truck is started. The circuit is initially hot then turns momentarily goes cold during engine start up.

Over on a radar detector forum someone suggested there has to be a "switched circuit" that isn't cut off during start up.

Would anyone know of any of these?

It'd be pretty tough to depress the break pedal, push the start button and hold meter probes on a fuse at the same time. I'd need to hire Nixon's Secretary for help. LOL

 

[08TxRunner]

Grab a multimeter and check the fuse box by your left knee. Wire in there. Real easy.

 

[ahtoxa11]

I honestly hadn't realized that radar detectors are still used much. I remember using them daily almost 20 years ago.

 

[fkheath]

My V1 Gen 2 plugged into the cigarette lighter socket on a 2021 Limited has to be manually turned on after the truck is started. The circuit is initially hot then turns momentarily goes cold during engine start up.

Over on a radar detector forum someone suggested there has to be a "switched circuit" that isn't cut off during start up.

Would anyone know of any of these?

It'd be pretty tough to depress the break pedal, push the start button and hold meter probes on a fuse at the same time. I'd need to hire Nixon's Secretary for help. LOL

I have had a V1 for years and currently have the generation 2, all plugged into the cigarette lighter. I have never had that problem, thus the problem is with the radar detector. See if Valentine can help you. You do not need to find a circuit that stays on when the car is started.

 

[fkheath]

I honestly hadn't realized that radar detectors are still used much. I remember using them daily almost 20 years ago.

Radar detectors, especially the Valentine One, is really hot with the fast car crowd (Porsche, Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, etc. ). I have had one for years.

 

[Thai]

V1G1…turns on automatically when car is on.

V1G2…need to be manually turned on.

Both plugged into cigarette lighter outlet of my LC.

I am interested in solution to this issue with V1G2.

(BTW, V1G2 is phenomenal. Love it.)

 

[Naylor99]

V1G1…turns on automatically when car is on.

V1G2…need to be manually turned on.

Both plugged into cigarette lighter outlet of my LC.

I am interested in solution to this issue with V1G2.

(BTW, V1G2 is phenomenal. Love it.)

I have one of each, and they both power up when I start the vehicle. In both cases I hard-wired them to power.

 

[Thai]

I have one of each, and they both power up when I start the vehicle. In both cases I hard-wired them to power.

yeah, but that is with you hardwiring it. Thru cigarette lighter, the old one powers up automatically. The new one does not. I always thought that was intentional by Valentine??

 

[fkheath]

yeah, but that is with you hardwiring it. Thru cigarette lighter, the old one powers up automatically. The new one does not. I always thought that was intentional by Valentine??

I have a gen 2 plugged into the cigarette lighter and it always turns on automatically when I start the car. My gen 1 I had before always did the same.

 

[97BlackAckCL]

I honestly hadn't realized that radar detectors are still used much. I remember using them daily almost 20 years ago.

This was my thought as well lol

 

[Ryance39]

I've got one in both my sports cars, hadn't really ever considered putting it in the 4runner though. Saved me enough times to make it worth it.

 

[3kushn]

The goal here is to never have to touch the V1 power button.
Hard wiring into an always hot circuit would require to manually power down the unit.

November 2020 is when I purchased this 4R. Prior to that i drove an F150. I hard wired the V1 to a switched circuit in the Ford and all worked like it should.

With the 4R there's a brief moment when there's power during engine start up, then power is cut off, then returns to hot 12Volts.

As far as running a detector in a 4R? The truck will cruise rather well at 80 or so. Seems like the cops aren't much interested in ticketing that speed since the virus, but there's a lot of cops shooting radar around where I live. If you drive 1000 miles a week, sometimes I need to push the limit to make the next stop.

If you don't have a detector, you don't know what you don't know is really the situation. Not saying its wrong or dumb not to have one, but to think all is safe while exceeding the limit? Well in most states you can simply pay a lawyer plus double the fine and court cost. That's really the only risk.

WAZE does a decent job but you get a lot of stale warnings as well as cop warnings on the wrong side of the highway. The detector give you a mile of 2 verification.

For me, if I'm driving a car without a detector, 5mph over cruise speed is about all I'll risk.

 

[08TxRunner]

The goal here is to never have to touch the V1 power button.
Hard wiring into an always hot circuit would require to manually power down the unit.

November 2020 is when I purchased this 4R. Prior to that i drove an F150. I hard wired the V1 to a switched circuit in the Ford and all worked like it should.

With the 4R there's a brief moment when there's power during engine start up, then power is cut off, then returns to hot 12Volts.

As far as running a detector in a 4R? The truck will cruise rather well at 80 or so. Seems like the cops aren't much interested in ticketing that speed since the virus, but there's a lot of cops shooting radar around where I live. If you drive 1000 miles a week, sometimes I need to push the limit to make the next stop.

If you don't have a detector, you don't know what you don't know is really the situation. Not saying its wrong or dumb not to have one, but to think all is safe while exceeding the limit? Well in most states you can simply pay a lawyer plus double the fine and court cost. That's really the only risk.

WAZE does a decent job but you get a lot of stale warnings as well as cop warnings on the wrong side of the highway. The detector give you a mile of 2 verification.

For me, if I'm driving a car without a detector, 5mph over cruise speed is about all I'll risk.

Nobody is talking about hardwiring into an always on circuit. We're talking ab out a switched circuit that does not have the brief "off" then "on" the OP described.

 

[cbaty08]

Just adding some data - my Escort REDLINE (orignal v1) starts up no issue in my '21.

 

[3kushn]

Nobody is talking about hardwiring into an always on circuit. We're talking ab out a switched circuit that does not have the brief "off" then "on" the OP described.

I am the OP and someone did imply simply find a switched circuit.

"Check the fuses by left knee"

 

[ShakyDog]

Just because I am curious, is the Gen 2 V1 that much better?

I did not even wire the V1 in my new 4runner as my old V1 (that has been updated to the latest version) just tells me about every car that has a collision avoidance system. It is so bad that I do not even respond to the K sound on my V1.
I use it in my Z4 as I want to know when to actually look at the speedo and it has saved my so many times, I cannot count.

Steve

 

[Thai]

Just because I am curious, is the Gen 2 V1 that much better?

I did not even wire the V1 in my new 4runner as my old V1 (that has been updated to the latest version) just tells me about every car that has a collision avoidance system. It is so bad that I do not even respond to the K sound on my V1.
I use it in my Z4 as I want to know when to actually look at the speedo and it has saved my so many times, I cannot count.

Steve

I have my V1G1 in my minivan…i turned off the K-band. So, it only detects Ka and Laser. By doing that, it is pretty good and silent.

V1G2 is in my LC…i leave everything on, except X-band. And it is quiet for the most part. Still has a few false alarms in city (mainly with K-bands). But out on the highway, it is great.

For both, they are always on, whether in city or highway. V1G2 is pretty quiet all-around that i can leave it on 100% of the time.

And yes, both have saved my bacon a few times! Actually, V1 both generations is pretty much renowned for their LASER detection. I actually escaped a clear ticket with cop using laser a few weeks ago.

 

[fkheath]

Just because I am curious, is the Gen 2 V1 that much better?

I did not even wire the V1 in my new 4runner as my old V1 (that has been updated to the latest version) just tells me about every car that has a collision avoidance system. It is so bad that I do not even respond to the K sound on my V1.
I use it in my Z4 as I want to know when to actually look at the speedo and it has saved my so many times, I cannot count.

Steve

One of the things I like about the V1 is they come out with updates and improvements; for a fee, you can get a new V1 in exchange for your old one. I did that several times with my gen 1.

One of the most important updates, a couple years back, was to remove most false alarms from car radar sensors when you use the full logic mode. Your gen 1 must not have that update or you are not using full logic mode.

The new gen 2 also does not respond to most car radar sensors when in full logic mode. It looks at the frequency of the radar and determines if it is within the frequency range authorized for police use or not. If not, it does not alarm.

My gen 2 hardly ever gives a false alarm when in full logic mode. With the cell phone app, you can actually see the real frequency of the radar being detected, and the authorized bands allowed for police by law; really neat.

 

[fkheath]

Just because I am curious, is the Gen 2 V1 that much better?

I did not even wire the V1 in my new 4runner as my old V1 (that has been updated to the latest version) just tells me about every car that has a collision avoidance system. It is so bad that I do not even respond to the K sound on my V1.
I use it in my Z4 as I want to know when to actually look at the speedo and it has saved my so many times, I cannot count.

Steve

Yes, the gen 2 is much better in range. On a recent trip though central Utah on I15, there is almost constant highway patrol south of Nephi. In the past with my gen 1, I could pick them up one or 2 miles away, but with my gen 2, that has increased to about 5 miles. The annoying part of that is you are watching to find the HP for 5 miles, instead of one or two.

If you use the full logic mode, most car radar is not alarmed.

 

[3kushn]

Just because I am curious, is the Gen 2 V1 that much better?

I did not even wire the V1 in my new 4runner as my old V1 (that has been updated to the latest version) just tells me about every car that has a collision avoidance system. It is so bad that I do not even respond to the K sound on my V1.
I use it in my Z4 as I want to know when to actually look at the speedo and it has saved my so many times, I cannot count.

Steve

I've been using V1 nearly since Mike Valentine left Escort.
V1Gen2 is incredible, and if you marry it up to JBV1 or the Apple app along with listening to Waze, you have a as close to a complete picture of whats ahead as possible.

There's another app to marry to JBV1... Highway Patrol?? or something like that, which also gives you additional crowd sourced info.

Pretty much a total package.