which tires are better

blk05runner

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well, going to be getting some new wheels and wanted to input on which tires are better.
Nitto Terra Grappler or Toyo Open Country M/T
Overall I want it to handle better but not be so loud. I've heard nothing but good things about the Nitto but nothing on the Toyo.
 
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Toyo Open Country M/T!!!!!! (as you can tell, i prefer the Toyo):)

First off, you're comparing an all-terrain to a mud-terrain tire. It all depends on what you want. Are you sure that you did not mistype?? There are Toyo Open country A/T and M/T...which were you referring to??

If you meant Toyo A/T, then both Nittos and Toyo are the same basic tire. Toyo owns Nittos i believe and the two AT tires share the same basic construction, just slightly different tread design. You can't go wrong with either.

If you meant M/T, then read on...

Since you know about Nittos AT already, i will tell you more about the Toyo. First, take a look at this link about M/Ts that i wrote up: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22027&highlight=firestone+destination+m/t

Toyo Open Country M/T...from what i have been reading, these tires are probably the quietest MT tire on the market. It's a hard tire to get (and can be $$$$)...very few distributors around US...so, not many people have them in stock. From the few that have them, these are relatively quiet for a MT...a bit noisier than average AT tire. Handling & braking on-road are relatively good. They handle well in rain and snow/ice because they do come with siping from the factory. Mud traction is good and they do well on rocks, but not as sticky as MT/R on rocks though. The one major negative (other than hard to find & $$$$) about these tires is the weight. It is well-constructed, but it weighs quite a bit more than all other MT tire...we're talking at least 10-15 lbs more per tire than your average MT. So, keep that in mind because this may affect handling, braking, ride comfort, and fuel economy. However, despite this, they do ride well enough because their sidewall is a bit softer than MT/R. Treadwear is pretty good...probably at least 40K miles on average.

Hope this helps.
 
for those in the San Diego/LA area...I have a contact that should be able to get you Toyo and for cheap
 
Thai,
I was talking about the M/T as I've seem many around here in San Diego. Looks better then the Nitto but saw the Toyo A/T on there site. Given that I will really not go off road, I think that the A/T would be best for what I am looking for. also just found that the M/T has a 99MPH limited:(
Not that I go flying around but there are times when I'm on I-5 and will hit over 100

Casper, can you PM me the info so I can call and get some prices.

Here is one for both of you:confused:
I am planning on getting some 20's but was also thinking just to put new tires on the stock sports 17's. To me the 17 looks way to small for the 4Runner and given that I did see some members here with 20's. It does look very nice on the Runner.
 
blk05runner said:
was just searching around and found that the Toyo M/T are overall better than the A/T in every way. Humm!!

You really can't go wrong with the Toyo M/T...they are probably the best all-around M/T on the market. Negatives are price and weight.
 
blk05runner said:
tell me about it the price are :bonk:
and I believe each weight is about 80 pounds +

"You get what you paid for it." Tough construction = high weight + price.

What size are you looking at?
 
well if I use the stock 17's there seems to be only 2 options
37x13.50R17 131Q E/10
35x12.50R17 125Q E/10

and if I get some 20's, there are 4>
37x13.50R17 131Q E/10
35x12.50R17 125Q E/10
38X13.50R20 124Q
38X13.50R20 124Q
38x15.50R20 125Q D/8
40x15.50R20 130Q D/8

so not to sure what setup I should do. Got any ideas which would be best?
 
I have no clue...i have never gotten those big tires before because i have never lifted any of cars. Don't you have to re-gear with those tires??
 
blk05runner said:
no more then 3inch F n R. I've heard nothing but good feedbacks on the OME so far.

I don't know much about lifts, but isn't 35" tires too big for 3" lifts??? I know almost for sure that 37" and definitely 40" tires are too big. And if you are going for such big tires, then you need to re-gear. For your kind of lift, i would stick with 32" or 33" (max) for tires.
 
Thai said:
I don't know much about lifts, but isn't 35" tires too big for 3" lifts??? I know almost for sure that 37" and definitely 40" tires are too big. And if you are going for such big tires, then you need to re-gear. For your kind of lift, i would stick with 32" or 33" (max) for tires.

really I don't want anymore then 33max.
 
blk05runner said:
well if I use the stock 17's there seems to be only 2 options
37x13.50R17 131Q E/10
35x12.50R17 125Q E/10

and if I get some 20's, there are 4>
37x13.50R17 131Q E/10
35x12.50R17 125Q E/10
38X13.50R20 124Q
38X13.50R20 124Q
38x15.50R20 125Q D/8
40x15.50R20 130Q D/8

Yet, not sure if i am reading it right, but all your choices listed above are 35" tires and above.
 
those are the only tires available for 17 or 20's from their web site.
Might just have to go with Nitto if I cannot get the toyo's
 

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