Who's going electric lime????

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Would you order an electric lime PRO? Or maybe just get a lunar rock or army green off road and add TRD Pro wheels and tires, grill, valences, skid plate and your own suspension?


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Would you order an electric lime PRO? Or maybe just get a lunar rock or army green off road and add TRD Pro wheels and tires, grill, valences, skid plate and your own suspension?


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I don't like any of those colors. My 2018 4Runner is silver which I like. I am also partial to a dark blue.
 
I’m planning on going the lunar rock off road way with pro upgrades. Any suggestions on how to upgrade the suspension?
 
I’m planning on going the lunar rock off road way with pro upgrades. Any suggestions on how to upgrade the suspension?

The only thing I did was a leveling kit from Rough Country - 2" lift front and 1" lift rear. The ride of the 4Runner is the best of any off road vehicles I have ever had, so I didn't want to mess with the springs or shocks. The Jeeps I have owned have been especially rough riding.
 
I’m planning on going the lunar rock off road way with pro upgrades. Any suggestions on how to upgrade the suspension?

All depends on what you want it to do and how much money you have.

TLDR: spacers will be cheapest and worst-riding. Getting high-end coilovers like King or ICON will be most expensive, but offer the best quality ride along with aftermarket UCAs. You have middle options such as Bilstein coilovers as well.
 
All depends on what you want it to do and how much money you have.

TLDR: spacers will be cheapest and worst-riding. Getting high-end coilovers like King or ICON will be most expensive, but offer the best quality ride along with aftermarket UCAs. You have middle options such as Bilstein coilovers as well.

This isn't entirely true. Spacers don't change your suspension's performance. It merely just changes the geometry with regards to your pivot points (i.e. control arms) which can affect handling. A lot of people with Pros use spacers to continue utilizing the Pro suspension.

OP, if it were me, I'd go with an ORP all day over a Pro, especially with the only color choice this year. Not that I'm saying its an ugly color but I can easily imagine waking up some mornings and just not wanting to drive a bright vehicle. I had a yellow car for years and it quickly got old.
 
This isn't entirely true. Spacers don't change your suspension's performance. It merely just changes the geometry with regards to your pivot points (i.e. control arms) which can affect handling. A lot of people with Pros use spacers to continue utilizing the Pro suspension.

OP, if it were me, I'd go with an ORP all day over a Pro, especially with the only color choice this year. Not that I'm saying its an ugly color but I can easily imagine waking up some mornings and just not wanting to drive a bright vehicle. I had a yellow car for years and it quickly got old.

I would argue that there's a contradiction in your statement. Pivot points have a huge effect on suspension performance. Let's use LCA as example. Let's assume that when stock it's completely parallel to the road - 0*. As the suspension hits a bump, the LCA pivots. All of the force goes into the picot and little goes laterally through the length of the LCA. Let's use an extreme example and say that the LCA after lift is at 45*. When you hit a bump, some of that force is now transferred along the length of LCA to "push" into where it's mounted. An even more extreme example is where the LCA is completely perpendicular to the road and hitting a bump doesn't pivot it any more and all of the force is transferred along it's length rather than through its swing. Effectively, the load and force on the suspension changes when pivots are changed, and aftermarket springs and shocks (good ones) factor this in and design shocks and springs to better absorb/compensate. Of course, it's not perfect, for a major geometry change in one area effectively requires changes elsewhere - this is again why UCAs are recommended past certain lift height, and it's not for caster alone.

I would say the above is the main reason why many look down on spacers -- and for good reason -- the stock suspension just can't compensate for the geometry change and the ride becomes worse.
 
I am going Lime Rush. I have a Lunar Rock pro, but because the color is going to be on so many different trims for 22 I put my order in for Lime. If this is the last year of the 5th gen then even if they put the color on the 6th gen, it will make the 22 Lime more of a rare vehicle down the road.
 
I am going Lime Rush. I have a Lunar Rock pro, but because the color is going to be on so many different trims for 22 I put my order in for Lime. If this is the last year of the 5th gen then even if they put the color on the 6th gen, it will make the 22 Lime more of a rare vehicle down the road.

I'm also on the fence on selling my Voodoo Blue and getting the Lime Rush. Because of my discount and the resale value of these 4Runners I'll pretty much break even financially but with a newer truck. Was going to do it last year for the Lunar but saw that it came in other trims so I backed out of it.
 
I'm also on the fence on selling my Voodoo Blue and getting the Lime Rush. Because of my discount and the resale value of these 4Runners I'll pretty much break even financially but with a newer truck. Was going to do it last year for the Lunar but saw that it came in other trims so I backed out of it.

I had a Voodoo Blue Pro and I regret selling it. To me it was the perfect color as it was bold and not being as popular as other colors on the Pro, it will be highly sought after down the road. I’m not sure how I will feel about a lime colored Pro, but I think down the road it will be highly sought after as well, so I’m gonna make the switch.
 
I had a Voodoo Blue Pro and I regret selling it. To me it was the perfect color as it was bold and not being as popular as other colors on the Pro, it will be highly sought after down the road. I’m not sure how I will feel about a lime colored Pro, but I think down the road it will be highly sought after as well, so I’m gonna make the switch.

After crunching the numbers I'll need to see what the wife says, she may just want to keep the Voodoo Blue but then I'll have payments again. Having both would be great. She's ready to move on from her big SUV because our third child will be in college next year so we won't be needing it anymore.

We'll see how it pans out but for the Pro's I think the Inferno, Voodoo, Quicksand and hopefully the Lime will be more sought after due to it not being available in other trims.
 
All depends on what you want it to do and how much money you have.

TLDR: spacers will be cheapest and worst-riding. Getting high-end coilovers like King or ICON will be most expensive, but offer the best quality ride along with aftermarket UCAs. You have middle options such as Bilstein coilovers as well.

I'm thinking of getting an 22 off-road premium with KDSS then adding FN FX pro style wheels to bring the wheels out a bit. I'm not an off road driver, I'm looking for a body on frame super reliable vehicle that will last a long time. The roads on the east coast of Canada are not great so having a vehicle that floats over the bumps like a '77 Cadillac is what I'm going for.
 
I'm thinking of getting an 22 off-road premium with KDSS then adding FN FX pro style wheels to bring the wheels out a bit. I'm not an off road driver, I'm looking for a body on frame super reliable vehicle that will last a long time. The roads on the east coast of Canada are not great so having a vehicle that floats over the bumps like a '77 Cadillac is what I'm going for.

Depends on perspective but you aren't gonna get that from a ORP, not with stock suspension. It's perfectly good, but it's not that smooth. A stock PRO with Fox suspension will be better at that, so long as you leave it stock.
 
I would argue that there's a contradiction in your statement. Pivot points have a huge effect on suspension performance. Let's use LCA as example. Let's assume that when stock it's completely parallel to the road - 0*. As the suspension hits a bump, the LCA pivots. All of the force goes into the picot and little goes laterally through the length of the LCA. Let's use an extreme example and say that the LCA after lift is at 45*. When you hit a bump, some of that force is now transferred along the length of LCA to "push" into where it's mounted. An even more extreme example is where the LCA is completely perpendicular to the road and hitting a bump doesn't pivot it any more and all of the force is transferred along it's length rather than through its swing. Effectively, the load and force on the suspension changes when pivots are changed, and aftermarket springs and shocks (good ones) factor this in and design shocks and springs to better absorb/compensate. Of course, it's not perfect, for a major geometry change in one area effectively requires changes elsewhere - this is again why UCAs are recommended past certain lift height, and it's not for caster alone.

I would say the above is the main reason why many look down on spacers -- and for good reason -- the stock suspension just can't compensate for the geometry change and the ride becomes worse.

I should have elaborated but I wasn't wanting to derail from the topic too much. Real quick...
People look down on spacers because they don't accept them for what they are. Clear and simple, spacers are not springs.
I agree with most of what you said though and that yes, any changes to geometry affect handling. However, geometry changes are not always an immediate con though.
Taller springs change the geometry as much as spacers. Plus spacers can be installed above the coil or above the mount. Both have different effects.
I'm just saying that depending on the application, spacers don't necessarily diminish the ride quality.

If you buy a Pro, the only way of keeping the Pro suspension and raising the vehicle is by adding a spacer above the mount (from my understanding). Your geometry then changes but not more than it would if you added an equivalent calibrated spring with the additional height. Someone with a Pro, please correct me if I'm wrong or simply ignore and continue with the OP's thread.
 

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