Why so many beefs about the 5th gen speed?

[Ichiromoco]

Had some of this over the summer minus the check engine and TRAC lights. Mashed the peddle down and nothing for a couple seconds then it slowly revved up. This was downtown in the heat of summer, 100+ degrees. Started putting 93 in the tank and it seemed to fix the problem. Engine was much more responsive with 93.

Hard to believe it takes weeks to get a throttle body. Do they know it's defective or are they throwing parts at it?

They said that it is faulty with certainty and that mine is the first they've seen. They said it may take weeks because they are not being mass produced??

 

[Texas_Ranger]

I think about people who owner a car like a Triumph and complain about the acceleration. That tells me they're in the wrong car. Cars are what they are and have certain aspects to them that make them unique. If your not able to appreciate a car for what it does well and continue to point out it's flaws (according to your needs), then maybe your in the wrong car? I accept our mpg, the spongy brakes, the windshields that tend to crack easy, etc. But I drive the 4R how it wants to be driven and where it wants to be driven. I love this thing.

 

[thennen]

I think about people who owner a car like a Triumph and complain about the acceleration. That tells me they're in the wrong car. Cars are what they are and have certain aspects to them that make them unique. If your not able to appreciate a car for what it does well and continue to point out it's flaws (according to your needs), then maybe your in the wrong car? I accept our mpg, the spongy brakes, the windshields that tend to crack easy, etc. But I drive the 4R how it wants to be driven and where it wants to be driven. I love this thing.

I agree. Drive what you bought and enjoy it for what it is, and stop *****ing about what it isn’t. Or else go out and buy something that perfectly fits your every desire. Either way, stop *****ing.

 

[dylanoclark]

There are so many good points about those who'll find any reason to complain...for me, I'm just enjoying the ride.

 

[thennen]

I agree. Drive what you bought and enjoy it for what it is, and stop *****ing about what it isn’t. Or else go out and buy something that perfectly fits your every desire. Either way, stop *****ing.

How insane is it to plop down a ton of money for a vehicle you WANT (face it, few of us buy a T4R for economical transportation), only to gripe about it? For example, it ONLY has 270 horsepower, when you KNEW that at the time of purchase. I roll my eyes at stuff like this.

 

[Solofowaffles]

I find my 4runner much more enjoyable to drive than my 3rd gen tacoma.

 

[Muskrat14]

I'll be going from my current Touareg TDI to a 4Runner in the next year or so and the lack of torque and how much the engine whines when you gun it is a concern.

Also, I live in Denver and spend a lot of time in the mtns. Torque matters here more than at sea level.

A 4 liter engine should have more HP and Torque than this one is tuned for.

Why wouldn’t you just keep your VW or go with a new one instead of going w a 4Runner? If it’s a concern, why change?


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[mrblah]

Get a sprint booster or pedal commander and problem solved.

 

[Turderboozle]

I had a '12 X3 with the turbo 6 in it prior to my '18 4R and it was STUPID quick (for an SUV) and way to easy to not be paying attention to what you're doing and look down to see you're doing 100+ But it also had a tendency to eat water pumps and had some interesting electrical issues, and service was $$$$

The 4R may be slower than that, but it's got no problem cruising at normal highway speeds and I have a feeling that it won't eat electronics wrapped in dollar bills and sh*t water pumps...

 

[wrw4runner]

The next generation should be engineered to accept a trd supercharger like the 3rd gen.or offer v8 option like 4th gen. 5th gen offers neither.

 

[IanB]

I've got a GX470 and a 5th gen, they use the same transmission I believe, but programmed differently. The 4th gen will hold 2nd gear around a corner so you can punch it and accelerate confidently with no dramatics. The 5th gen is so eager to upshift that it's never in 2nd gear unless you're manually holding the gear with the shifter, resulting in laggy response time and lackluster performance.

Add to that the fact that the throttle by wire has a certain amount of "I know you say you want to go, but I don't think you want it enough" programmed into it and the end result is a disappointing showing. Guys with the same engine in Tacoma double cab longboxes don't share the same complaints not because of the weight savings, but because of the different programming.

It's entirely possible the transmission issue is a direct result of the TBW programming, and may be drastically affected along with engine response with a product like a sprint booster or pedal commander. These products don't add any power, they change the way the power you do have is delivered, and those that have them have very good things to say about them. I will get one of these someday, the 5th gen is the wife's daily for now so it's not top priority.

With how hard the 5th gen pulls once you get the revs up, it has the potential to be a lot zippier feeling around town without having to manually shift gears. It's not that they don't have enough power, it's that you have to try to hard to access the power.