XREAS woes and fixing them........ yeah, I know

CookieRoe

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About a month ago, I took my rig to a Toyota dealer near my work to get the state inspection. They failed it saying the brake calipers were seized and 2 of the shocks were leaking. They said to repair everything would cost about $2K....... SCREW THAT. I called my mechanic friend in another town (1 hour away) and told me to bring it to him. He inspected it and passed it. He did notice the passenger shock was a tiny bit wet and the rear drivers side was (seemed) fine. This was a quick trip so he never took the wheels off to inspect the brakes, but they functioned fine (truck rolled when in N on a very slight incline, brakes activated fine and released fine).

Fast forward one month to take our time to inspect the brakes and shocks, we find the brakes completely fine. All pads are wearing evenly, pins are lubed (in the rear), rotors are fine (he tested it with a clamp looking tool). Calipers also function just fine. No evidence of seized calipers. So, we called BS on the brakes the dealer wanted to fix.

While inspecting the brakes, we took a look at the shocks. Driver's front and passenger rear were fine. Drivers rear and passenger front were a little wet (see picture). It was then I discovered the hydraulic lines coming out of the shocks. XREAS!!!!!!!!! DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!! (kinda feel foolish having this truck almost 3 years and not realizing I had it) :ybrick: OK, maybe the dealer diagnosis of the shocks were spot on. This certainly explains why the dealer was charging so much for shocks.

passenger front;
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driver rear;
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lines and sender units look in good shape:
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Went to Conicelli Toyota (closer to my house AND home to partznet.com) to price out XREAS shocks and other stuff and gave me a good price. Because the dealer who originally diagnosed the bad shocks seemed to know what they were talking about, I asked them to price match the shocks from Conicelli and we had a deal. We all know they are crossed linked, so replacing one set, well, you may as well replace the other set as we also know that this damn suspension lasts about 100K miles. Replacing all four will set me back a little less then $900 (not including the alignment). This will be the first and LAST time I will be repairing these shocks. The dealer told me you can replace JUST the shock (any shock) only once. A second time requires replacing the WHOLE SYSTEM (lines, sender units and shocks). That costs about $3K............ So, no.

I really enjoy my truck and love the fact that despite my mods, it looks completely factory. I won't be doing any lifting kits or big tires (those days for me are over).

Just wanted to share this and had one question:

1) I know that XREAS is a closed system, however you can replace the shocks (if you do it correctly) because of the disconnect locations, but is it true you can only do this ONCE???


thanks
 
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I recall reading that you have to replace the shocks in pairs, but yes only 1x before you need to o the whole thing.

In reality based on XReAS pricing have you considered ripping it out and replacing all 4 shocks with Bilstein 5100's? Or you could even do Bilstein HD's if you know you will never lift. $400 for all 4 and you are set. Never worry about the leaking hydraulics. Also if the XREAS replacement doesn't go perfect... You are up shits creek.
 
you can replace a pair. FL RR or FR RL that is the only way to do it.

but XREAS is HORRIBLE, just installed bilsteins with stock sport springs, couldn't be happier!
 
I recall reading that you have to replace the shocks in pairs, but yes only 1x before you need to o the whole thing.

In reality based on XReAS pricing have you considered ripping it out and replacing all 4 shocks with Bilstein 5100's? Or you could even do Bilstein HD's if you know you will never lift. $400 for all 4 and you are set. Never worry about the leaking hydraulics. Also if the XREAS replacement doesn't go perfect... You are up shits creek.

Thanks for confirming the "only replace once rule" on the shocks.

YESSSS everybody, I have considered ripping the system out and installing Billies but I wanted to have one more round of this suspension setup (stock). I also considered installing stock shocks. Billies are nice, but are on the stiff side. I had them when I had my Grand Cherokee (then again, that SUV was a massive POS).
 
I've also researched the crap out of this as I had the exact same problem. There is a guy on Craigslist out of Seattle trying to offload his XREAS, here is the link:

NOS'08 Toyota 4Runner X-REAS Suspension parts: ShocksStruts andCoils

Seems like a decent deal and he has had it up there forever, so I'm sure he's ready to offload it.

What a pain, right? Anyway, thanks for the info. I'd jump on that deal except for the burning fact that these things don't last very long. I saw someone on the classified section trying to sell his (whole thing) very cheap. Thing is, it has 80K miles on it (not a lot serviceable life left in it). So I'll pass.....
 
My last 4Runner had X-REAS (no observed problems with it), my current 4Runner does not. I replaced with 5100s and have not looked back. They ride fantastic, not stiff at all. They do remove the "floating couch" feeling, though.

I'd take Bilsteins any day over XREAS. I'd sooner do that any time before replacing any part of the XREAS system itself. Just my $0.02.
 
Honestly I don't know why anybody would want XREAS. My Bilstein/Monroe shocks ride better and corner just as well. ANY struts up front and shocks for the rear will be fine and they are a LOT simpler and cheaper.

Take XREAS out, throw in nearest garbage can, never look back.
 
I've got the xreas and 85K miles. Lately the ride seems to be more jarring. I know leaking shocks are a sign of failure but jarring rough ride? Anyone with xreas have that happen?

Also, I've had Bilsteins in a Jeep Grand as well and it was miserably jarring and rigid. I'm very leery to firm this ride up...
 
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110,000km... owned new since March 2013. No issues yet. Hope not until I trade in for the next gen. Hurry TFU Toyota.
 
What a pain, right? Anyway, thanks for the info. I'd jump on that deal except for the burning fact that these things don't last very long. I saw someone on the classified section trying to sell his (whole thing) very cheap. Thing is, it has 80K miles on it (not a lot serviceable life left in it). So I'll pass.....

i am in Rhode Island but i have a complete system (X-REAS) that i bought as a back up for my 07. it's has been inside my garage for about 6 years sitting inside a plastic bin.

you can have it if you can find some way to get to it.

Roger
 
What happens when XREAS fails?

I have a 2014 LE and was told that my XREAS system was leaking by a shop that did my brakes and showed me some pictures of where dirt and oil was accumulating around the shocks. I'm in no hurry to spend money on upgrading my suspension just yet so if I just wait this out until the system is at its end what can I expect to happen? Will the ride just become terrible as the shocks lose hydraulic fluid?
 

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