Yet another request for tire recommendations

[Giesela]

I've done some forum searching and some reading on line but am still having trouble picking a tire. I'll find a well recommended tire and then see reviews about how great it was till the tread wore a little. Or how someone loved their Michelin LTX's but don't say whether its the Premier (poor lifespan complaints) or the Defender LTX.

My local tire guy has to order Michelin special, 1000 (unmounted) for Michelin Defenders LTX M/S, He as Bridgestone Dueler AT RHS 900 installed on his truck and he said on pavement you get some resistance turning.
He has a lot of Coopers, my nephew has Goodyear Wranglers on his truck and gotten great wear............gah.

Mostly town and highway. The roads in my town are TERRIBLE!!! Potholes and patches on patches on patches for the last 20 years. Lots of dirt and grit too. My nephew says get the most durable long lasting tires because tires here don't last. (I just moved back to Michigan).

In the summer I do go to northern Michigan and don't off road per se but there are sandy truck trails beaten to deep dust by ATV's, wet sand, sometimes mud, often with no cell phone coverage. So while that's only a couple of times a year and I've never run into trouble because I'm careful not to take too many chances....... I do have Michelin snow tires that go on for winter so snow isn't as much a thing as rain.

So either a fairly smooth durable all terrain or more likely a good All Terrain.

Edit: 2015 Trail 4WD with stock rims

Thanks

 

[ic0517]

Don't have the paperwork with me but I got General Grabber somethings from Tire Rack on the OEM rims. I screwed up and got E rated instead of C rated, have not have the chance to drive them in snow, but I can say, now, when I slam on the brakes, the ABS does not kick in. I thought they were a compromise between total street and off road.

I also like to pretend the E rated tires handle potholes better because they are higher pressure, but someone else on the this forum say yeah but they are gonna suck in the snow.

If you are in Southern Michigan near South Bend, Indiana, you can get them installed right at Tire Rack and save on shipping. I missed a turn on the GPS and ended up on Michigan for a bit trying to get there. Try to get there early, and just bring your phone so you have something to do. Just follow the signs, if you go past the electric car chargers, you went too far.

 

[pDubs]

I love my 265/70r17 Falken Wildpeak At3w. I offroad and go camping, mountain biking, hiking, etc pretty often.

Most here are going to recommend those, Bridgestone Ko2s, or a few others.



Not trying to offend but an actual aggressive AT may be overkill. My mom has a 4th gen 4runner and has the Michelin LTX MS/2 and they have been great. They have worn excellent, are quiet, and definitely better on the MPG compared to an aggressive AT. For your scenario, I would recommend those.

 

[Giesela]

I agree on the all terrain being overkill. I hope for an all weather that has a little oomp for sand/wet sand/mud.

The Michelins sound great but when I look at them they look very...street. Not that I care about the look, but..

The E vs. C thing. Yea had a nose dive once at fairly low speed, the road might have a little moisture on it, can't remember. Scared the shit out of me, I thought the back end was going to come around.

 

[jspagna1]

I have 2 sets of tires for my 4Runner. Winter tires are Firestone Destination AT's which work out great. For the Summer with more long distance trips and desired comfort, I ran the Firestone Destination LE2's but they need to be replaced so I have on order the Toyo Open Country QT's. They have a 65,000 mile treadwear warranty where the Firestone LE2's had a 60,000. The selling point is that the Toyos are supposed to be quiet and smooth and have a long tread life. We will se.

 

[El Dusty]

I have 2 sets of tires for my 4Runner. Winter tires are Firestone Destination AT's which work out great. For the Summer with more long distance trips and desired comfort, I ran the Firestone Destination LE2's but they need to be replaced so I have on order the Toyo Open Country QT's. They have a 65,000 mile treadwear warranty where the Firestone LE2's had a 60,000. The selling point is that the Toyos are supposed to be quiet and smooth and have a long tread life. We will se.

I have 25k+ on a set of Toyo AT2s that are wearing slower and better than I expected. I will definitely exceed the warranty on my set (50k). Im sure the QTs are vastly different compound/tread wise but either way toyo knows their tires will meet and exceed their warranty mileage by quite a bit.

Also I strongly second running winter tires when temps allow, mostly to save AT tread for the trails

 

[Jivewalker]

I am fully stock as well. I had the ltx a/t 2's for 60k. They held up, but not any better than the the stock dunlops, which also lasted north of 60k. I currrently have KO2's and really like the way they track. I have about 30k on them and see them lasting 50-60k. All that being said, I get a lot less flat tires from small stuff than I did when driving the street tires, which is huge for me. I may even go MT type tires next, I see them everywhere and they seem to last and are not phased by the bad roads and many nails, etc. Hope this feedback helps.

 

[mteolus]

I had BFG AT's (KO's) and BFG MT's (old version) on an old 92 Toyota truck. KO's were great, got 90k out of them. MT's after that I got about 55k but were way too noisy. I was so whipped by the noise of the MT's so I just went to Discount Tire and told them to get me quietest Michelin's they had. They gave me Michelin LTX MS/2. Loved them, never had a flat and went off-road with them a lot. Had the white letters out but the tire doesn't look real aggressive, but no big deal to me. The lack of noise was awesome.

Right now I have KO2's with about 8k on them. So far so good and very quite for a AT tire. KO2's are more expensive than other similar tires but I got mine fairly cheap during Black Friday.

 

[4runr4eva]

I've done some forum searching and some reading on line but am still having trouble picking a tire. I'll find a well recommended tire and then see reviews about how great it was till the tread wore a little. Or how someone loved their Michelin LTX's but don't say whether its the Premier (poor lifespan complaints) or the Defender LTX.

My local tire guy has to order Michelin special, 1000 (unmounted) for Michelin Defenders LTX M/S, He as Bridgestone Dueler AT RHS 900 installed on his truck and he said on pavement you get some resistance turning.
He has a lot of Coopers, my nephew has Goodyear Wranglers on his truck and gotten great wear............gah.

Mostly town and highway. The roads in my town are TERRIBLE!!! Potholes and patches on patches on patches for the last 20 years. Lots of dirt and grit too. My nephew says get the most durable long lasting tires because tires here don't last. (I just moved back to Michigan).

In the summer I do go to northern Michigan and don't off road per se but there are sandy truck trails beaten to deep dust by ATV's, wet sand, sometimes mud, often with no cell phone coverage. So while that's only a couple of times a year and I've never run into trouble because I'm careful not to take too many chances....... I do have Michelin snow tires that go on for winter so snow isn't as much a thing as rain.

So either a fairly smooth durable all terrain or more likely a good All Terrain.

Edit: 2015 Trail 4WD with stock rims

Thanks

I am about to order and install Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S's in 255/75/17. They are very light at 39 lbs. and get very good reviews. I'll let you know more once installed. Oh and they have a $70 rebate this month. Good luck OP.

Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S Review | Tacoma World

Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S | Cooper Tire

Cooper Discoverer A/T3 4S | TireBuyer

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cooper-D..._tax=91083_1077064_2707442&wpa_bucket=__bkt__

 

[Giesela]

The Michelins sound like great tires and my tire guy said he thought so but I just found this and IDK, maybe just a little too road. Don't want an aggressive all terrain but want a little more than this.
I do like the idea of better gas mileage though.

Had some Coopers that I hated but they might have been too light for the truck. Have no idea why the AAA guy sold them to me.
The AT in the AT3's is All Terrain right? Too much for my needs or not?

he LTX M/S2 is a highway tire, and as such, excels in dry, even conditions. Whether you drive a truck, SUV or van, this tire will get you from point A to point B with no hesitations. Handling is smooth and comfortable, and you get great feedback from the tires. Cornering is responsive and thanks to the slightly stiffer sidewall, changing lanes even at high speeds is solid and confident. Starting and stopping is quick, and traction is maintained throughout. Some folks have also found an improvement in gas mileage with this tire. Off-road this tire can take you up some light gravel and dirt roads without issue, but anything more uneven and loose like sand or mud, you may find yourself in some trouble – remember, it’s an all-season highway tire.

 

[Canam1000r]

I just turned 26,000 miles on my Cooper AT3's. I live in the Northeast so i deal with snow, rain, ice, heat & major pot hole issues I have a cabin that I have to drive through snow/mud covered roads and I tow my side x side around. 26,000 miles and just hit 9/32, I believe new was 13/32. Excellent tire overall!

 

[halflife78]

Can someone post that tire chart I have seen floating around showing the actual size in inches or different tire sizes?

 

[Giesela]

Looking up General Grabbers - there are 6 SUV/LT options, 4 are too rugged right out of the gate.
There is an APT that sounded good till the review said struggled in sand and mud.
The Grabber HTS60 is similar to the Michelin.

Firestone Destination L2
The tread is designed to be longer lasting, which Firestone backs up with a 60,000 mile guarantee. We’ve heard very few complaints in regards to treadwear on this tire.

Overall, the performance on this tire nearly matches that of other tires like the Michelin Defender LTX M/S, General Grabber HTS60 and other top all-season models at the top of this class. Even better is that Firestone has priced the LE2 lower than many of these brand name tires, making it an outstanding value in new tires. Highly recommended.

Ok so if I want a road tire any of these 3 would probably be fine. Maybe a cooper. Doesn't seem like there is an All season truck tire that is good on anything but pavement. Is there a AT light?

 

[redneckj]

I love my 265/70r17 Falken Wildpeak At3w. I offroad and go camping, mountain biking, hiking, etc pretty often.

Most here are going to recommend those, Bridgestone Ko2s, or a few others.



Not trying to offend but an actual aggressive AT may be overkill. My mom has a 4th gen 4runner and has the Michelin LTX MS/2 and they have been great. They have worn excellent, are quiet, and definitely better on the MPG compared to an aggressive AT. For your scenario, I would recommend those.

I agree too. I have the Falken AT3W in a 275/70/17. C load range. Awesome tire. NO complaints on the highway, snow, or the rain. We get all different types of weather in WA so I needed a tire that could handle it all.

Look at Tirebuyer.com for great pricing and a dealer in your area for install.

 

[El Dusty]

Can someone post that tire chart I have seen floating around showing the actual size in inches or different tire sizes?

Going Bigger - 5th Gen Tire Fitment Guide

 

[tm965]

I agree too. I have the Falken AT3W in a 275/70/17. C load range. Awesome tire. NO complaints on the highway, snow, or the rain. We get all different types of weather in WA so I needed a tire that could handle it all.

Look at Tirebuyer.com for great pricing and a dealer in your area for install.

how many miles do you have on your set? how comfortable and quiet is the ride?

 

[Redsoxx1918]

The Michelins sound like great tires and my tire guy said he thought so but I just found this and IDK, maybe just a little too road. Don't want an aggressive all terrain but want a little more than this.

I do like the idea of better gas mileage though.



Had some Coopers that I hated but they might have been too light for the truck. Have no idea why the AAA guy sold them to me.

The AT in the AT3's is All Terrain right? Too much for my needs or not?



he LTX M/S2 is a highway tire, and as such, excels in dry, even conditions. Whether you drive a truck, SUV or van, this tire will get you from point A to point B with no hesitations. Handling is smooth and comfortable, and you get great feedback from the tires. Cornering is responsive and thanks to the slightly stiffer sidewall, changing lanes even at high speeds is solid and confident. Starting and stopping is quick, and traction is maintained throughout. Some folks have also found an improvement in gas mileage with this tire. Off-road this tire can take you up some light gravel and dirt roads without issue, but anything more uneven and loose like sand or mud, you may find yourself in some trouble – remember, it’s an all-season highway tire.

A highway tire is actually good in the sand and what you want over an aggressive off road tire. An aggressive tread will dig into the sand instead of floating over it. I’m probably the only one on this forum that actually likes the stock Bridgestones. Granted, my use is 95% highway and I use my 4wd for all the snow in the winter and driving in the sand in the summer. But I find them to be relatively quiet, good in the wet and good in the snow, and at 18psi, really good in deep soft sand. I currently have 26,000 miles on them and have about half the tread left.


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[Kunimatsu]

I just turned 26,000 miles on my Cooper AT3's. I live in the Northeast so i deal with snow, rain, ice, heat & major pot hole issues I have a cabin that I have to drive through snow/mud covered roads and I tow my side x side around. 26,000 miles and just hit 9/32, I believe new was 13/32. Excellent tire overall!

I have Coopers too, excellent tire choice.

 

[Rusty Spuds]

LTX MS/2 's work well on bad roads.
The only off road I do is some beach driving to fish and they do well there also.
Last year I went up the Dempster hwy and had no problems, and that road is famous for destroying tires.
When it rains up there the road gets soft and slick, I didn't even need 4wd. They do fine in snow too at about 28psi.

 

[mteolus]

Off-road this tire can take you up some light gravel and dirt roads without issue, but anything more uneven and loose like sand or mud, you may find yourself in some trouble – remember, it’s an all-season highway tire.

Not sure who wrote this, but whatever. I drove mine all over Colorado up all kinds of 4x4 roads, no problems. I didn't even have a rear locker, just standard 4x4. Never even aired down once. I think if you are in deep mud or rock crawling in Moab, sure they won't be as good as mud tires or AT tires, but again I think you are talking about your standard 4x4 off-road use, not something you see Lite Brite doing on YouTube.