2020 T4R Predictions - 04/08/2019

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"2020 T4R Predictions" …???

Is this a joke thread?
The 2020 T4R information has been released by Toyota a few weeks ago - see all the threads about this in the 5th Generation and General Discussion sections.

As for the V8 - yes a V8 option would be great...but not the weak V8 from the 4th generation 4Runner.
 
"2020 T4R Predictions" …???

Is this a joke thread?
The 2020 T4R information has been released by Toyota a few weeks ago - see all the threads about this in the 5th Generation and General Discussion sections.

As for the V8 - yes a V8 option would be great...but not the weak V8 from the 4th generation 4Runner.

Bra,
The V8 in the 4th gen is not "Weak" :twitch:
With a set of headers, intake and exhaust it becomes a powerhouse that gets better full ecnoomy than the v6 in the 5th gen. Also the 4th gen weighs 500lbs less than the 4th.
 
Someone posted this from another thread posted April 2018, If you havent read this before from another thread READ:

"I apologize in advance for resurrecting this topic since it brings out a lot of emotional responses, but I am in a position to emphatically say that there will be a 6th Gen 4Runner. I was recently invited to participate in a couple of styling exercises with Toyota. I am under NDA so I will tiptoe around some details.

Timing: Direct quote, "we are three years out", so I anticipate a release in late 2020 as a 2021 model. This lines up with some of the speculation I've read on this forum based on known release dates of other models.

Mechanicals: All indications are that it will be based on the same 150 platform as the 5th Gen. Another direct quote, "it will be the exact same size as the current generation", which reinforces the speculation that it will be based on the 150 platform. Plus all the exterior styling artist renderings showed running gear that looked exactly like the 5th Gen. No discussion of engine.

Exterior Styling: Those who like the rugged appearance of the 5th Gen will not be disappointed. There were four different versions shown that ranged from mild to wild on my scale and all of them were what I would call "bold". Common themes of all of them were large front grill, very modern looking lighting (front and rear), much more aggressive flares (some versions more than others), very good front and rear approach and departure angles, barn door type rear hatch and rear hatch mounted spare tire. My feedback and that of others that I was privy to was 1) do not lose the retractable rear window, 2) keep the lift gate if you can, but keep the retractable rear window at all cost, and 3) if you must move the spare tire to the rear, use the space opened up underneath for additional fuel capacity. All of the styling studies reminded me of an updated 4 door FJ Cruiser.

Interior Styling: Much more car like, but also much more refined than the current interior. It appeared that many of the hard switches and buttons will become soft switches on the large center display screen. My feedback, and again that of those I was privy to, was there was a disconnect between the rugged exterior styling and the (too) refined interior styling. Recommended using large buttons and dials rather than soft buttons on a glass screen (have you ever tried to press a button on a screen when bouncing down a trail or dirt road?).

Again, I am under NDA, which I don't feel I have violated with what I have shared, but this is the extent of the information I am comfortable sharing at this time. What we see in three years may or may not be what I saw, but I'm confident it will be very close. I am also very confident there will be a 6th Gen 4Runner and it will be body on frame.



Since then I've learned a few more facts about the 6th Gen as well as some interesting info on other, companion models that most likely will be produced.

As for the 6th Gen it is confirmed October 2020 released as 2021 model, following the release of the 2020 Prado. It will be sitting on a new platform, but don't expect too many changes. The exact quote was "consider the differences between the 120 and 150 platforms; it will be along those lines". No new info on power plant or transmission. Also, no new info on styling which makes me feel that what I have already seen will make it to production, either as one of the versions I saw or a combination of two or more versions. I am not disappointed by any of them other than the barn door rear hatch and non-retractable rear window.

Now, here's the really interesting part - there are two additional models that are very likely to make production: a two door model based on the two door Prado platform that will be a "throwback to the FJ40". And there will is a four door model that is loosely based on the FJ55 and is being called internally the FJ5.

I have no idea if one or both of these will see the light of day, but Toyota is going after Jeep. We might even see a solid front axle in the line-up. I think we could see all three variations, one a follow-on of the 5th Gen, the two door as a more off-road oriented model and the four door as a more overlanding variation.

None of this info seems to be a big secret within the walls of Toyota HQ, but very little seems to get out. I am not a Toyota employee, I just know several who are in the right places."
 
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thnaks for the straight talk on 6th gen

Someone posted this from another thread posted April 2018, If you havent read this before from another thread READ:

"I apologize in advance for resurrecting this topic since it brings out a lot of emotional responses, but I am in a position to emphatically say that there will be a 6th Gen 4Runner. I was recently invited to participate in a couple of styling exercises with Toyota. I am under NDA so I will tiptoe around some details.

Timing: Direct quote, "we are three years out", so I anticipate a release in late 2020 as a 2021 model. This lines up with some of the speculation I've read on this forum based on known release dates of other models.

Mechanicals: All indications are that it will be based on the same 150 platform as the 5th Gen. Another direct quote, "it will be the exact same size as the current generation", which reinforces the speculation that it will be based on the 150 platform. Plus all the exterior styling artist renderings showed running gear that looked exactly like the 5th Gen. No discussion of engine.

Exterior Styling: Those who like the rugged appearance of the 5th Gen will not be disappointed. There were four different versions shown that ranged from mild to wild on my scale and all of them were what I would call "bold". Common themes of all of them were large front grill, very modern looking lighting (front and rear), much more aggressive flares (some versions more than others), very good front and rear approach and departure angles, barn door type rear hatch and rear hatch mounted spare tire. My feedback and that of others that I was privy to was 1) do not lose the retractable rear window, 2) keep the lift gate if you can, but keep the retractable rear window at all cost, and 3) if you must move the spare tire to the rear, use the space opened up underneath for additional fuel capacity. All of the styling studies reminded me of an updated 4 door FJ Cruiser.

Interior Styling: Much more car like, but also much more refined than the current interior. It appeared that many of the hard switches and buttons will become soft switches on the large center display screen. My feedback, and again that of those I was privy to, was there was a disconnect between the rugged exterior styling and the (too) refined interior styling. Recommended using large buttons and dials rather than soft buttons on a glass screen (have you ever tried to press a button on a screen when bouncing down a trail or dirt road?).

Again, I am under NDA, which I don't feel I have violated with what I have shared, but this is the extent of the information I am comfortable sharing at this time. What we see in three years may or may not be what I saw, but I'm confident it will be very close. I am also very confident there will be a 6th Gen 4Runner and it will be body on frame.



Since then I've learned a few more facts about the 6th Gen as well as some interesting info on other, companion models that most likely will be produced.

As for the 6th Gen it is confirmed October 2020 released as 2021 model, following the release of the 2020 Prado. It will be sitting on a new platform, but don't expect too many changes. The exact quote was "consider the differences between the 120 and 150 platforms; it will be along those lines". No new info on power plant or transmission. Also, no new info on styling which makes me feel that what I have already seen will make it to production, either as one of the versions I saw or a combination of two or more versions. I am not disappointed by any of them other than the barn door rear hatch and non-retractable rear window.

Now, here's the really interesting part - there are two additional models that are very likely to make production: a two door model based on the two door Prado platform that will be a "throwback to the FJ40". And there will is a four door model that is loosely based on the FJ55 and is being called internally the FJ5.

I have no idea if one or both of these will see the light of day, but Toyota is going after Jeep. We might even see a solid front axle in the line-up. I think we could see all three variations, one a follow-on of the 5th Gen, the two door as a more off-road oriented model and the four door as a more overlanding variation.

None of this info seems to be a big secret within the walls of Toyota HQ, but very little seems to get out. I am not a Toyota employee, I just know several who are in the right places."



Appreciate you respecting NDA - and sharing what you can !
Amazing to think they would consider doing away with power back window--- so good to hear early thinking supports keeping the power back window as part of the next gen.
Dogs around the world are self organizing!
 
So let me get this straight , the 2020 4runner will be a C/O no android auto , or apple car play , and Toyota'a safety sense??
 
So let me get this straight , the 2020 4runner will be a C/O no android auto , or apple car play , and Toyota'a safety sense??

No. The 2020 4Runner will get Android Auto, Apply Carplay, and TSS. That much has been stated by Toyota. And yes it is still a 5th gen.

2020 Toyota Sequoia TRD Pro Opens Path to Family Adventures, Leads Charge for Updates on all TRD Pro Models | Toyota

Although the article mainly talks about the TRD Pro it mentions that all grades of the 4Runner will receive those updates as well.
 
Some of the information on this forum is absolute crap.

Why are we calling 2019+ 4Runners 6th generation when the same body style and powertrain?

Here is a fun FACT everyone can take to the bank.

2020 model codes include a 8667 (8668 is Limited and 8669 is Limited Nightshade edition) which has a "Venture" title and also has an Overland option.

How do I know this?

My inventory manager was completing BOS (change orders for vehicles being built) and called me asking if I knew about an 8667 or "4Runner Venture"

Feel free to pick this apart but we will see you all and this post in 2020 ;-)
 
Some of the information on this forum is absolute crap.

Why are we calling 2019+ 4Runners 6th generation when the same body style and powertrain?...

Many users have complained about this misinformation but it looks like the owners/moderators don't care or can't do anything about it.

Yes there should be a 6th gen section to discuss the upcoming 6th generation (still seems to be a few years out) but the 2019 tag has to be removed from this section. Also there is no 2018 tag at all attached to any section.

This is bad for the forum and it's also bad for those newbies that don't have much 4Runner knowledge yet.
 
Many users have complained about this misinformation but it looks like the owners/moderators don't care or can't do anything about it.

Exactly. I wish a moderator would at least acknowledge the issue, whether they can't fix it or choose not to. Their silence is disheartening.
 
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