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Old 08-30-2012, 07:23 AM #1
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New 4Runner owner... Adding nav/backup camera?

So, I've always been an Audi fan... But - when I bought a boat... well - towing became an issue. So I picked up an 05 4Runner Sport the other day.

So far loving this car... One of my 'gripes' is there is no courtesy light over the dash - only the doors... It sure is dark in there at night!

Second, I'd like to add navigation, bluetooth, backup camera, ipod cable. I always have liked retaining the 'stock' look. But is the factory navigation any good? (I'm sure it's overpriced compared to aftermarket)

What would you guys recommend?
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For the Map Light, check out JA's Page for a simple mod...works great.
J.A.'s Toyota 4Runner Highlander and Sport Edition Informational Website
While on his page, check out the LED bulbs...makes a huge difference over stock.
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For the Map Light, check out JA's Page for a simple mod...works great.
J.A.'s Toyota 4Runner Highlander and Sport Edition Informational Website
While on his page, check out the LED bulbs...makes a huge difference over stock.
Awesome! Thanks!
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You could pay upwards of $2000 if you wanted the factory navigation from the dealership.

I too wanted navi in my runner but at that price, I felt I would have gotten better bang for my buck with something aftermarket and I went after this:

Pioneer AVIC-X940BT

It says that the MSPR is $1000, but you can find one on Ebay or Amazon for around 600 brand new, give or take.

They also have a backup camera that you can add on.

You can also get a steering wheel control interface so that you can retain the functionality of the buttons on your steering wheel. I believe PAC & Metra both make their own versions of this product.
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You can get the stock look with a double din if you buy the factory surround. I installed a Kenwood DNX model and it looks great and does what you want. It also has Garmin GPS so map updates are easy.

I did a whole thread on my install. Check my signature.
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i've done the OEM route and it's fairy easy. Just make sure you get the NAV unit for cheap. If you get it from the dealers, forget it, TOTALLY not worth it. Here are some links you can browse to see what you are up against. Not difficult

Good link with wiring info:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...tml#post176568

Which OEM Toyota NAV to get? Here's info:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...tml#post537748

More info:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...tml#post127524

22 pages of info for install:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...html#post13226

There are other threads regarding some details (radio bezel/LEDcolor change/etc), but this mod is essentially plug and play provided you have a JBL amp or not. If you do, this mod is 100% doable. If not, you need to get the correct NAV H/U.
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does the OEM nav have a way to hook up an ipod?
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lots of options (cheap and expensive)

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does the OEM nav have a way to hook up an ipod?
OEM: later year NAV units (depending on which model you get), do come "pre-wired" to accept an AUX input jack, but that is something else you would have to install. Going aftermarket would be tons easier.

Off the top of my head, there is product from Scosche that is a plug and play kit that integrates the ipod onto the NAV's display, pricey, but very cool. Keeps it "factory looking".

2004 - Up Select Lexus / Toyota / Scion / iPod Integration to Factory Radio

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I think you're right. aftermarket will be way easier. I just need to make sure I find something that will retain the steering controls.

if anyone has any tips about that... let me know!
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I think you're right. aftermarket will be way easier. I just need to make sure I find something that will retain the steering controls.

if anyone has any tips about that... let me know!
Harness for aftermarket head unit:
Metra Part # 70-1761 | Toyota wire harness | Metra Online

Steering wheel control interface
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i've done the OEM route and it's fairy easy. Just make sure you get the NAV unit for cheap. If you get it from the dealers, forget it, TOTALLY not worth it. Here are some links you can browse to see what you are up against. Not difficult

Good link with wiring info:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...tml#post176568

Which OEM Toyota NAV to get? Here's info:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...tml#post537748

More info:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...tml#post127524

22 pages of info for install:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/audio-...html#post13226

There are other threads regarding some details (radio bezel/LEDcolor change/etc), but this mod is essentially plug and play provided you have a JBL amp or not. If you do, this mod is 100% doable. If not, you need to get the correct NAV H/U.
Cookie, could you tell me if all head units have backup camera capability? I am looking to replace my 04 head unit (35241) with an 03(35240). I broke the screen on mine. If the plugs totally match on the earlier h/u, would I get backup camera capability?
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I think you're right. aftermarket will be way easier. I just need to make sure I find something that will retain the steering controls.

if anyone has any tips about that... let me know!
I think there are newer models out there but I put in a Kenwood unit with Garmin GPS and am still happy. I tried to document the install thoroughly. Hopefully the newer Kenwood models address the sluggish iPod controls but overall, it is a pretty good system and has all of the features you might want.
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Cookie, could you tell me if all head units have backup camera capability? I am looking to replace my 04 head unit (35241) with an 03(35240). I broke the screen on mine. If the plugs totally match on the earlier h/u, would I get backup camera capability?
No, early models that did not come with a backup camera simply do not have the internal hardware. Replacing the screen won't do an thing.

I DID come across this:

Amazon.com : Toyota 4Runner 2003-2004 Navigation Video Interface, Add DVD, Rear View Camera or Any Other Video Source to Your Factory Navigation Screen UPC: 819346016435 : Vehicle Backup Cameras : Car Electronics

This product ADDs video capability to your non-camera equipped OEM NAV. It's not cheap, but then the alternative is even more expensive. Check it out!

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Yikes. How hard would it be to put in a newer display? Mine has the dvd unit in cargo area. The newer ones are internal. Are there harnesses to make my wiring compatible?
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Yikes. How hard would it be to put in a newer display? Mine has the dvd unit in cargo area. The newer ones are internal. Are there harnesses to make my wiring compatible?
Wiring harness: I don't think so. From what I understand, there is a 24pin connector in the back of the camera equipped NAVs that the non-camera NAVs do not have. You would have to get pinouts for both and make the appropriate connections. READ: Pain in the Ass

Display install: I've never done it, but it's a matter of taking out small screws and CAREFULLY unplugging a very delicate "ribbon cable" that connects the screen to the head unit. Damage this and it's all over.

If you want to keep the an OEM NAV, get a unit with an INTERNAL DVD drive (maps).

This should help you in deciding which unit to get. Again, only if you want a toyota NAV. I try to update the info when I get a hold of it. But the information is pretty accurate IMO.

OEM NAVs that work w/ 4R4
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