Toyota To Delay Introduction Of The 4runner Redesign

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Toyota To Delay Introduction Of The 2008 4runner, Will Extend Production Of The Current Model Into 2007 And Beyond
Mark Rechtin
Automotive News / March 30, 2005 - 6:00 am

OJAI, Calif. -- Toyota Motors announced today that due to internal company issues, production and sales of the 2008 Toyota 4runner will be postponed for up to a year. The new 2008 4runner was to be introduced to the public in January 2007 at the Detroit Auto Show and is the first complete redesign of the popular SUV icon since 2003. Supplier and labor troubles at the Tahara and Hino assembly plant where 4runners have been made are blamed in part for the delay. The Tahara assembly plant was to introduce a new style of assembling vehicles from a Japanese manufacturer, bringing the suppliers closer to the actual assembly process by housing them on the same grounds. Over the past several months management at Toyota has sparred with union management over labor policies with the suppliers, causing pilot production runs of the vehicle to slip behind schedule. Pilot units of the ARB off-road limited edition 4runner have been beset by problems and the model itself is in jeopardy of being cancelled outright.

Additionally, sales of the current model have been at an all time high since the announcement of its replacement late last month, with order backlogs approaching 12 weeks. "4runnner owners are mostly enthusiasts by nature, and are somewhat dismayed by what they perceive as a step backwards in the development of the 4runner" said Akio Nishimura, engineer and spokesman for Toyota. "We recognize that we might have made a mistake in 1998 when the Supra was discountinued. We suffered significant financial losses from customer outcry over the discontinuation." Last month in response to the increase in demand of 2006 models, the base price of all 4runner models was increased by over $100, and it is thought that sales incentives such as Toyota's special financing rate will be discontinued going forward.

The 2008 4runner redesign has been under fire since early 2006 when details started leaking out in trade publications. Critics decried everything from the independent rear air suspension to the heavily-reinforced unibody design derived from the next generation Highlander. In response Toyota has leaked out details of a diesel engine option as an enticement to get 4runner owners to start to think favorably of the new design. "Even though we can't get it past federal smog regulations, we still think that continued development may pan out and we'll see that option as early as 2010." added Nishimura.

The entire current 4runner line will continue to be produced into calendar year 2007 and possibly 2008.
 
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Hmmm. interesting. Thanks Thai for the info. So new 5th Gen. will be as 2009 model??? This means we have ~4 years till the new models come.
I didn't get the info on ARB 4Runner. What was it about?
 
AlexJet said:
Hmmm. interesting. Thanks Thai for the info. So new 5th Gen. will be as 2009 model??? This means we have ~4 years till the new models come.
I didn't get the info on ARB 4Runner. What was it about?

I am not sure about the ARB special edition...i have to Google it to see.

Anyone else have insight into this?
 
Very interesting Thai, thanks for the info. I guess my theory about $2500 rebates on the 2006 4Runner later this spring due to gas going to $3.00/gal are a bit optimistic in light of the unexpected high demand for the 2006 model. Heck, they even raised the price.
 
Thai said:
Toyota To Delay Introduction Of The 2008 4runner, Will Extend Production Of The Current Model Into 2007 And Beyond
Mark Rechtin
Automotive News / March 30, 2005 - 6:00 am

OJAI, Calif. -- Toyota Motors announced today that due to internal company issues, production and sales of the 2008 Toyota 4runner will be postponed for up to a year. The new 2008 4runner was to be introduced to the public in January 2007 at the Detroit Auto Show and is the first complete redesign of the popular SUV icon since 2003. Supplier and labor troubles at the Tahara and Hino assembly plant where 4runners have been made are blamed in part for the delay. The Tahara assembly plant was to introduce a new style of assembling vehicles from a Japanese manufacturer, bringing the suppliers closer to the actual assembly process by housing them on the same grounds. Over the past several months management at Toyota has sparred with union management over labor policies with the suppliers, causing pilot production runs of the vehicle to slip behind schedule. Pilot units of the ARB off-road limited edition 4runner have been beset by problems and the model itself is in jeopardy of being cancelled outright.

Additionally, sales of the current model have been at an all time high since the announcement of its replacement late last month, with order backlogs approaching 12 weeks. "4runnner owners are mostly enthusiasts by nature, and are somewhat dismayed by what they perceive as a step backwards in the development of the 4runner" said Akio Nishimura, engineer and spokesman for Toyota. "We recognize that we might have made a mistake in 1998 when the Supra was discountinued. We suffered significant financial losses from customer outcry over the discontinuation." Last month in response to the increase in demand of 2006 models, the base price of all 4runner models was increased by over $100, and it is thought that sales incentives such as Toyota's special financing rate will be discontinued going forward.

The 2008 4runner redesign has been under fire since early 2006 when details started leaking out in trade publications. Critics decried everything from the independent rear air suspension to the heavily-reinforced unibody design derived from the next generation Highlander. In response Toyota has leaked out details of a diesel engine option as an enticement to get 4runner owners to start to think favorably of the new design. "Even though we can't get it past federal smog regulations, we still think that continued development may pan out and we'll see that option as early as 2010." added Nishimura.

The entire current 4runner line will continue to be produced into calendar year 2007 and possibly 2008.


Hey Thai

where did you find that article?...Automotive news right?
I went there to find it but it wasn't there...I noticed that it said 2005....I was just confused on that if it was posted today...I just wanna see if there were more links to anymore information on the 4runner.
Man, I'd love to see the pictures of the redesign.

anyway, lemmie know where you found it.

thanks
 
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4runner06 said:
anyway, lemmie know where you found it.

thanks [/B]

I got it from my brother who emailed me it. I will ask him later tonight when i see him.
 
When I saw the title, I was think wooohooo 4th gens won't be outdated as quickly.

Good one Thai...

BUT, the turmoil with suppliers sound more like GM and Delphi. And Toyota typically works very well together with their unions.
 
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Thai said:
HAPPY APRIL FOOL'S DAY!!

Hehehe, i got you guys going with this one!!:D This is my masterpiece.:p

GOTCHA!
It's been a long time since I've fallen for a joke this bad. You got us good! I was afraid my truck (due to arrive soon) was going to be delayed because of the backlog.
 
Alright, alright,

you got me...BUT...I did do some research. I looked it up, AND, I noticed there wasn't a columnist named after that guy...

But, seriously though....how long do you think I'll get to keep my 2006 4Runner until a redesign does come out...?

I believed it, mainly due to the fact that I wanna keep my baby for at least two years with the latest design ya know?

Anyway, GOOD ONE BUDDY!!..Take it easy...

See ya later...
 
4runner06 said:
But, seriously though....how long do you think I'll get to keep my 2006 4Runner until a redesign does come out...?

My thoughts exactly. My college roommate has a '98 Prelude, and I can't tell you how happy he was when they said it was discontinued. He says, "I'm glad there won't be another Prelude, because new models always make the older models look like crap."

IMO, not every model, many, but not all. Look at the 3, 5 and 7 series, I'll never drive a Bangle designed BMW. The 6 series is ok, that I'll drive.

Oh, to answer the question, probably 2008 if the 4Runner is on Toyota's 5-year product cycle (powertrain upgrades on year 3, facelift in year 4). I think the 4Runner might be on a 7-year cycle. I say we'll see a new Highlander, Sequoia and/or Land Cruiser first.
 
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4runner06 said:
But, seriously though....how long do you think I'll get to keep my 2006 4Runner until a redesign does come out...?

I can only go by history...3rd gen 4runner lasted from 1996-2002. So, by that, then 4th gen should go from 2003-2009.
 
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