RichinRidgewood
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I recently went to a couple Ford dealerships and Lincoln dealerships to look at the Explorer and the Aviator. I was really impressed.
The 5th Gen with its bad paint and glass, awful color selection, terrible fuel economy (19 mpg on the HWY wth ?), 1994 technology 4 wheel drive, lack of a reverse monitor, no automatic steering, I could go on and on, is sad. After seeing these Fords and Lincolns I cant see why most people would even consider a 4Runner anymore. Look out Toyota.
To be clear, the 2020-2022 Explorer and the Aviator are what TODAYS 4Runner should be NOW and the 6th Gen 4Runner must more. Who knows when or if it will even come out. I predict the new 4Runner will be a flop if it falls short of this. The 4Runner is way way behind in features compared to the other SUVs in its class. The next generation will need to be a huge leap forward to even be competitive.
If I was buying a new vehicle today I would probably buy an Explorer XLT or above. Aviators are beautiful vehicles however they are more expensive.
The Lincoln Aviator is extraordinarily nice.
https://www.lincoln.com/luxury-suvs/aviator/
The list Explorer’s feature are astounding
https://www.ford.com/suvs/explorer/
Here are some highlights:
*RWD platform with AWD and a Torsen limited slip rear
*Independent suspension on all 4 corners
*Huge aluminum castings at the mounting points for the unibody
*Aluminum hood and other light weight and high strength materials
*5300 - 5600 pound towing capacity
*More interior space
*Off-road option
*Greater than 6500 GVWR
*Nice paint and colors
*Huge Navigation/Info screen
*Electric Steering
*Nice seats with plenty of leg room
*Center consoles is too wide imho
*Styling is far more appealing than the 4R/Lexus stuff.
*Less expensive than the 4Runner
*LED everything
*10 speed transmission
D.I. 2.3 liter turbo
300 @ 5,500 rpm
310 @ 3,500 rpm
5300 pound towing cap.
21/28 mpg RWD, 20/27 AWD
3.0 liter Twin Turbo
400 hp/ 415 lb-ft torque
18/26 mpg RWD, 18/24 AWD
3.3L Hybrid
318 @ 6,500 rpm
322 @ 2,500 rpm
27/28 mpg RWD 23/26 AWD
The 5th Gen with its bad paint and glass, awful color selection, terrible fuel economy (19 mpg on the HWY wth ?), 1994 technology 4 wheel drive, lack of a reverse monitor, no automatic steering, I could go on and on, is sad. After seeing these Fords and Lincolns I cant see why most people would even consider a 4Runner anymore. Look out Toyota.
To be clear, the 2020-2022 Explorer and the Aviator are what TODAYS 4Runner should be NOW and the 6th Gen 4Runner must more. Who knows when or if it will even come out. I predict the new 4Runner will be a flop if it falls short of this. The 4Runner is way way behind in features compared to the other SUVs in its class. The next generation will need to be a huge leap forward to even be competitive.
If I was buying a new vehicle today I would probably buy an Explorer XLT or above. Aviators are beautiful vehicles however they are more expensive.
The Lincoln Aviator is extraordinarily nice.
https://www.lincoln.com/luxury-suvs/aviator/
The list Explorer’s feature are astounding
https://www.ford.com/suvs/explorer/
Here are some highlights:
*RWD platform with AWD and a Torsen limited slip rear
*Independent suspension on all 4 corners
*Huge aluminum castings at the mounting points for the unibody
*Aluminum hood and other light weight and high strength materials
*5300 - 5600 pound towing capacity
*More interior space
*Off-road option
*Greater than 6500 GVWR
*Nice paint and colors
*Huge Navigation/Info screen
*Electric Steering
*Nice seats with plenty of leg room
*Center consoles is too wide imho
*Styling is far more appealing than the 4R/Lexus stuff.
*Less expensive than the 4Runner
*LED everything
*10 speed transmission
D.I. 2.3 liter turbo
300 @ 5,500 rpm
310 @ 3,500 rpm
5300 pound towing cap.
21/28 mpg RWD, 20/27 AWD
3.0 liter Twin Turbo
400 hp/ 415 lb-ft torque
18/26 mpg RWD, 18/24 AWD
3.3L Hybrid
318 @ 6,500 rpm
322 @ 2,500 rpm
27/28 mpg RWD 23/26 AWD