FJ Cruiser, not Land Cruiser, is now top dog in off-roading!

jacal said:

Hang on...yes the statement is horses mouth, but it is most likely the Marketing department of the horse.

The LC is still a legend, but marketing wise maybe there is no reason to position it as the best stock off-roader.

The debate will have to rage on.


J

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CJ3Flyr said:

It seems to me we see this as N. Americans. The FJ is probably the most capable off-road here. My guess is the extra torque and low-end power of a diesel would add a little to the desirability of the LC200 for off-road use. I would also think a 3dr Prado diesel could out do an FJC. Nothing like a bunch of sweet, smooth torque to pull you through soft stuff or to crawl over rough stuff.

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Thai said:

Diesel is nice, but you can't substitute for a rear locker or better angles. It is not like the FJ (or 2010 4runner TE) are handicapped by 3-cylinder engines! With low range, much of the power deficit can be forgiven under most circumstances.

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CJ3Flyr said:

True but there's nothing cooler than the slight rattle of a diesel as your hooking the recovery strap to pull your buddies poser G-wagon out:lmao:

j/k!

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Thai said:

Maybe, but you can't argue with the facts that the FJ has better approach, departure, and breakover angles IN ADDITION to a rear locker.

Diesel is nice, but you can't substitute for a rear locker or better angles. It is not like the FJ (or 2010 4runner TE) are handicapped by 3-cylinder engines! With low range, much of the power deficit can be forgiven under most circumstances.

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jacal said:

I agree, size matters...and the FJ wins for the reasons mentioned. Does the 2010 4Runner TE actually have angles that can compete with the FJ?

J

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Thai said:

Not sure...but i think that the approach angle is slightly better on the 2010 TE, but the departure angle is slightly worst.

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Thai said:

But more than anything, the TE gives you a better view outside, whereas the FJ is kinda limited...and this is a major plus while off-roading IMHO.

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techno said:

FJ approach/departure/ground clearance = 34°/31°/9.6"
T4R approach/departure/ground clearance = 24°/24°/9.0"

FJ wins all round in this department.

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techno said:

FJ approach/departure/ground clearance = 34°/31°/9.6"
T4R approach/departure/ground clearance = 24°/24°/9.0"

FJ wins all round in this department.

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Thai said:

Those are NOT the numbers for the TE. According to Toyota:

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techno said:

Looks like I listed the 2wd specs. I hate that website, I had selected the TE previously but it seems to default back to the 2wd for some stupid reason...

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Thai said:

As an astute member of this forum, you should have recognized the gross error right away!!

But, yeah, i hate Toyota website...takes forever to load up.

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borgzman said:

Why will toyota discontinue the FJ?
I'm not surprise about the matrix.
The 10 Best Discontinued Cars - Rick Newman (usnews.com)

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