Factory doesn't know (or won't tell) operating temp of tranny!

TeryT

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I have a 2003 V8 4Runner with a 5 speed transmission. This tranny uses the T-IV fluid which is supposed to be synthetic. I installed a temp gauge/sensor in the pan, and it normally registers about double the ambient. Here in Phoenix the ambeint temp is running 90-100 now, so the tranny pan has been showing around 180-200 around town with no extra load.

Towing, loaded, and climbing good hills the pan temp climbs to nearly 230. Temperature charts I've seen seem to indicate this is a little high.

I've had two dealers investigate & come up empty regarding what normal operating temps should be for this tranny. One went to his district technical guy & still no answer, other than to say that the synthetic fluid can take more heat. 1-800-toyota did say not to be concerned unless it runs 250, which I think is where the factory idiot light comes on - seems a little late in my book!

A service manager today told me to just keep up on the factory maint. fluid changes, stay in towing limits, and if it goes out they have to replace under warranty (up to 100,000 miles). I told him I would rather NOT have the tranny go out - thank you very much!

Obviously I think I must go with a larger cooler for peace of mind.
BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO WHAT THIS TRANNY OR SYNTH FLUIDS ARE SAFE TO OPERATE AT?

Thanks!
 
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I will look through my amsoil stuff to see what the syn ATF is rated at temp wise. Ill get back at cha...
 
Normal Op Temp is 158 - 176

This was provided by our resident T4R.org Toyota dealer Shaun. He said his service manager found the "normal operating temps" of the 5 speed tranny (V8) in the repair manual.

Now I wonder what it means that my tranny temps (in the pan) are running a good 15-20 degrees hotter than that? This is with in-town driving, with ambient temps of 105. :awais:

(and please don't say move to a cooler climate!!!!) :cursin:
 
5 speed auto should run 180 to 200 no load. Up to 260 under load. Manual Tranny will tend to run even hoter by 5 or 10 degrees but cooler by 10 degrees under load.
 
Please tell me

blazeslayer said:
5 speed auto should run 180 to 200 no load. Up to 260 under load. Manual Tranny will tend to run even hoter by 5 or 10 degrees but cooler by 10 degrees under load.
where you got this info! PLEASE!

My local service mgr. yesterday told me not to worry about the temps - I had the extended warranty & if it went bad, they'd replace it! Yeah, simple for him to say. If it went out I envision being somewhere like 10,000 foot up in the Rockies somewhere! Like that would be fun - NOT! (bin dhere dot dat) :arrow:
 
Try the Mobil 1 tech line and Red Line Oil, too. At Red Line ask for Dave, see what he has to say about temps to be expected.
 

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