1-1/2 lift on 96 limited

[Hatteras-surfer]

I'm installing Daystar 1-1/2" Lift Kit (Coil Spring Spacers) on my 96 limited.
Will I need to upgrade front struts or can I get away with using existing size?

Thanks

 

[Dezert4Runner]

If you're throwing a puck in there (spacer), your shocks and springs need to be in good shape because the spacer's just going to wear out your coils much quicker, and if they're already shot, then you'll be sorry. The shocks are what make for a smooth ride as opposed to the coils being what hold the weight of your rig at it's ride height, so both being in good shape are equally important IMO.

The worst thing you can do is install a spacer lift with worn shocks and sagging springs.

 

[Hatteras-surfer]

If you're throwing a puck in there (spacer), your shocks and springs need to be in good shape because the spacer's just going to wear out your coils much quicker, and if they're already shot, then you'll be sorry. The shocks are what make for a smooth ride as opposed to the coils being what hold the weight of your rig at it's ride height, so both being in good shape are equally important IMO.

The worst thing you can do is install a spacer lift with worn shocks and sagging springs.

Thanks for the feed back.
Springs appear to be in good shape no rear sag pretty level with front so I think I'm good there.
I ordered stock size struts and skyjacker 7000 for rear for smooth ride.

 

[Hatteras-surfer]

If you're throwing a puck in there (spacer), your shocks and springs need to be in good shape because the spacer's just going to wear out your coils much quicker, and if they're already shot, then you'll be sorry. The shocks are what make for a smooth ride as opposed to the coils being what hold the weight of your rig at it's ride height, so both being in good shape are equally important IMO.

The worst thing you can do is install a spacer lift with worn shocks and sagging springs.

Well an update.
You were right on with adding spacer to worn back springs.
All looked great for a couple months and then started noticing bad sag ride was pretty bad.

17 year old springs had to go ordered Moog replacements.
Reading through forum Ive found that Moog springs aren't to popular around here but I had to go for it due to low price 68.00 times are tuff.
They should arrive next week for Saturday install I'm expecting positive results f,sure

 

[hdoggie24]

You said the rear springs were bad. How were the fronts working out after you installed the spacers. Did u use new shocks and old springs?

 

[Hatteras-surfer]

You said the rear springs were bad. How were the fronts working out after you installed the spacers. Did u use new shocks and old springs?

Original Fronts springs are pretty strong I installed new struts on spacer add everything's solid tight

I'm thinking back springs were on recall list never got swapped out by previous owner. Sag got real bad with spacer addition pretty sick really

 

[hdoggie24]

yea im doing the same thing pretty much. for the front i got the daystar spacer to use with my existing spring but with new shocks. i already bought new rear 99 tall springs with new shocks. haven't bought the new shocks for front yet but am thinking i will try to order the factory tokico ones. im 2wd so no offroading for me. i want a nice street ride. good luck

 

[Hatteras-surfer]

yea im doing the same thing pretty much. for the front i got the daystar spacer to use with my existing spring but with new shocks. i already bought new rear 99 tall springs with new shocks. haven't bought the new shocks for front yet but am thinking i will try to order the factory tokico ones. im 2wd so no offroading for me. i want a nice street ride. good luck

I was thinking hard about going with 99s dumping rear 1.5 spacer but was worried that it would sit to high for me due to front spring wear.
Its roll the dice when it comes to lift lol
I will post pic when complete please do the same.

good luck

 

[cj80cruiser]

Why not do the daystar 1.25" lift for the front that doesn't preload the springs? You also get new studs for your top plate and thats good if they're rusted like mine are.

 

[Gerdo]

Why not do the daystar 1.25" lift for the front that doesn't preload the springs? You also get new studs for your top plate and thats good if they're rusted like mine are.

FYI, I think you are talking about the type that mounts on top of the strut. These will allow excessive droop. Excessive droop can lead to over extension of the CV and they can actually pull apart. This can also cause extreme CV angles, at full droop, that can cause CV failure.

Coils spacers.
There is zero proof that they cause coils to sag prematurely. Nor do they cause a harsh ride.
The front spacers, that are mounted in the coil/shock assembly, do extend the shock and the shock now is working toward the end of the shock. Nothing different from a longer coil.
Rear spacers stack on top of the coil. This does nothing to the coil. There are no new forces on the coils. They only raise the vehicle like a longer coil.

Most of the time spacers are used on 10-15 year old coils. A coil this old is prone to sagging. It is more of coincidence that they sag more after adding spacers due to age and not from the spacers.

 

[Hatteras-surfer]

I ordered pair of moods part# MO81041 from Autoparts Warehouse yesterday.
Today a did a little more research finding that Mood also manufactures rear OEM pair Part No. 81088 at same price.
They were pretty hard to find not many online vendors sell them. I ended up purchasing pair at Advanced Auto they should arrive Sunday morning Being their OEM I'm feeling pretty good

 

[cj80cruiser]

FYI, I think you are talking about the type that mounts on top of the strut. These will allow excessive droop. Excessive droop can lead to over extension of the CV and they can actually pull apart. This can also cause extreme CV angles, at full droop, that can cause CV failure.

Coils spacers.
There is zero proof that they cause coils to sag prematurely. Nor do they cause a harsh ride.
The front spacers, that are mounted in the coil/shock assembly, do extend the shock and the shock now is working toward the end of the shock. Nothing different from a longer coil.
Rear spacers stack on top of the coil. This does nothing to the coil. There are no new forces on the coils. They only raise the vehicle like a longer coil.

Most of the time spacers are used on 10-15 year old coils. A coil this old is prone to sagging. It is more of coincidence that they sag more after adding spacers due to age and not from the spacers.

Are you talking about these? How is this different than people using top out spacers with there toytech lifts?

96-02 4Runner 1.25" Lift Front Coil Spacer Kit: 39.95 Click here for a picture. This kit mounts on top of the upper strut coil support plate and doesn't affect the actual spring rate. That means the ride firmness will feel similar to stock after installation of this kit. Comes with necessary longer stud kit. Requires disassembly of the front strut

 

[SantaCruzRunner]

I am also wanting to get the daystar lift. Let me know how it turns out and how it looks. Thanks

 

[Hatteras-surfer]

The final product

No more sag sits a little higher I'm happy with end result.