1999 Hard steering at idle
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JohnsD90
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your not supposed to turn the wheel wheel the car is not moving.
Ok let me explain a little further....when I take my foot off the gas just before a turn...then initiate the turn....the steering is very hard. If I give it a good amount of gas before the turn its nice and easy. In other words I have to give it gas to have smooth steering. Unlike any other 4runners I have owned.
LINY4Runner
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Is the fluid filled correctly? (i.e. hot or cold line depending on engine temp)
Yes I have checked that. At first I thought the pump was going bad but from what I have read they make some noise before they go. If I am moving slow and say trying to back into a spot...it's pretty difficult unless I give it some gas. I don't want to have to speed around just to turn...
LINY4Runner
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Check the belt tension. Tou should only be able to turn the belt 90 degrees by hand...any more and it's too loose:
if the belt sits flat like this
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you should only be able to move it this far by hand
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this is too much, and the belt may be slipping
/ or __ (upside down)
if the belt sits flat like this
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you should only be able to move it this far by hand
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this is too much, and the belt may be slipping
/ or __ (upside down)
Ok thanks!! I will check that out!
raydouble
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Along those lines, is the fluid a dexron III compatible ATF?
The pump doesn't have to get loud or leak to fail.
LINY4Runner
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Care to explain?
Qyota
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Puts a lot of stress on steering components and tires to be turned while not moving.
Congrats on the fix dude! :reddance:
LINY4Runner
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LINY4Runner
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What he said.
So let me get this right...it's not recommended to turn the steering wheel while the vehicle is not in motion? WHAAATT?
I could understand the stress to the steering rack, and end links when the tire is jammed up against a rock or other immovable object, but come on guys, how the heck is it detrimental to the vehicle to turn the wheel when stopped?
EDIT: I just re-read the post...stress on TIRES TOO?!? Come the f'on guys; you're telling me turning the steering wheel when stopped subjects the tire to MORE stress than it sees when traveling down the road?
Am I just missing something here??
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raydouble
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So let me get this right...it's not recommended to turn the steering wheel while the vehicle is not in motion? WHAAATT?
I could understand the stress to the steering rack, and end links when the tire is jammed up against a rock or other immovable object, but come on guys, how the heck is it detrimental to the vehicle to turn the wheel when stopped?
EDIT: I just re-read the post...stress on TIRES TOO?!? Come the f'on guys; you're telling me turning the steering wheel when stopped subjects the tire to MORE stress than it sees when traveling down the road?
Am I just missing something here??
I can't imagine it hurting the tires too much.....
If you are rolling at all the stress to the steering components is much less than sitting idle.
I guess it could prematurely wear out some items, but I think you would have to be doing it a lot.
LINY4Runner
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So let me get this right...it's not recommended to turn the steering wheel while the vehicle is not in motion? WHAAATT?
I could understand the stress to the steering rack, and end links when the tire is jammed up against a rock or other immovable object, but come on guys, how the heck is it detrimental to the vehicle to turn the wheel when stopped?
EDIT: I just re-read the post...stress on TIRES TOO?!? Come the f'on guys; you're telling me turning the steering wheel when stopped subjects the tire to MORE stress than it sees when traveling down the road?
Am I just missing something here??
You are missing something. It's been printed in every vehicle owner's manual since the beginning of time.
Qyota
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So let me get this right...it's not recommended to turn the steering wheel while the vehicle is not in motion? WHAAATT?
I could understand the stress to the steering rack, and end links when the tire is jammed up against a rock or other immovable object, but come on guys, how the heck is it detrimental to the vehicle to turn the wheel when stopped?
EDIT: I just re-read the post...stress on TIRES TOO?!? Come the f'on guys; you're telling me turning the steering wheel when stopped subjects the tire to MORE stress than it sees when traveling down the road?
Am I just missing something here??
Power steering is a high pressure system. The weight of the vehicle and the friction between the road surface and the tires pushes back against this pressure. If you're stopped on concrete or asphalt, that friction is very high. If you're on ice (or sand or something with some "give") it's much lower, and the pressure is able to overcome that friction easier.
I am not saying you're doomed if you turn the wheel while stopped. I am saying it puts unnecessary stress on steering components and tires.
BS, I just searched through a Toyota 4Runner PDF owners manual; nowhere in there buddy. Checked my wife's Explorer manual, a F-250 manual, Cavalier manual, with the same results. Maybe I'm not missing something, but you've got something added?
It sure sounded like there was serious 'doomage' to be had from the previous posts; it set my 'WTF is this BS?' alarm off.
I'll stick by my original assertion; if you think you're going to damage your steering or tires just from the static friction of the road surface, you're worrying way to damn much. The repeated shock and impact loads the whole steering system sees during a normal drive (not to mention an off-road jaunt) are huge compared to the ones seen while sitting still and only turning the tires.
