1St oil change

redskinboy

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New 07 4Runner with 2500 miles - when did all of you get the first oil change - I know, I can check the owners manuel but I trust your opinions far more!!
 
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I did my first change at 1,000 miles; then second at 5,000 in which I switched to synthetic.
 
Likewise, I'm soon to do first oil change somewhere between 1500 and 2000 miles. Then again, at 5k, I will change to Mobil 1 synthetic, and change every 5k miles subsequent to that.
I like this procedure because it is easy to recognize that oil needs changing every time mileage hits a multiple of 5,000 (i.e.- 5k,10k,15k,20k, etc)
 
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I did my first change at 1,000 miles; then second at 5,000 in which I switched to synthetic.

:iagree: Exactly what I did. To the tee.

I'll be changing mine every 5k miles after that.
 
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I am thinking of doing my first oil change at somewhere between 1000 and 1200 miles. Then every 3-4k thereafter.
 
J.A. said:
I am thinking of doing my first oil change at somewhere between 1000 and 1200 miles. Then every 3-4k thereafter.

I did the first oil change at 1220 miles, and every 3k going forward. Yea, yeah, I know 3k OCI is a waste of resources. Bad habits...
 
It Doesn't Matter

It is not necessary to conduct your first oil change prior to 5000 miles. What's most important is that you change your oil before it's lubricating/cleaning/buffering/conditioning properties are diminished and with most oils, this is between 5000 and 7500 miles.

These 3000 mile oil changes I keep reading about are an unfortunate waste of money and oil at a time when it's not wise to waste either.
 
1st at 1500 with dino
2nd at 5000 with dino
switched to Mobil 1 at 10K, will change every 5K with Mobil 1 to maintain Toyota's OCI recommendation.
 
Helps to clean out all the metal machining shavings that might be left in the engine and whatever else is a by product of the manufacturing process, as well as just helps the engine "break in"
 

I had my first oil change done by the stealership (with OEM-spec dino oil) at about 1800 miles -- since I had a coupon for my first one being free. Besides, I went on a long trip after that and wanted the peace of mind in knowing that they at least got a look underneath at my then-new 4Runner.

I changed it again at about 5000 miles (3200 miles later) with Mobil-1 synthetic, and have continued using it ever since. I still change it every 3,500 to 4,000 miles, even though I could probably go much, much longer. Again, peace of mind for me AND no issues with warranty coverage. {BTW, I keep all my receipts and maintenance/repair history in an organized file folder.}

I could pay $35 or $40 for an oil change with cheapo dino oil at the stealership, or I could buy a six-quart case of Mobil-1 and a Toyota OEM oil filter (with a crush washer) for about thirty bucks and do it myself. I also own a grease gun with a synthetic grease cartridge, which I use on the six fittings every other oil change. Since the oil filter is atop the engine (V6), it is hard to understand why anybody would want to pay someone else to do something so simple.

Call it peace of mind if you want, but I guess I am just "old school" when it comes to vehicle maintenance. Changing my oil often has always led to cars lasting a long, long time and fewer headaches with breakdowns, repairs or rebuilds. Additionally, the value of a used vehicle is marginally higher if you can prove to a prospective buyer that you took care of the vehicle properly.
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My lease on my 2005 4Runner expires in January and the person lucky enough to get it from me 'second-hand' will definitely get his/her money's worth from a car that was well-maintained and hardly broken in. Heck, I probably won't even have 36,000 on it unless I drive it a lot in the next few months. I only have 27,000 and some change on it now.

Yeah, I'll miss my 4Runner, but it is honestly more vehicle than I really need. I never drove it off-road, except once on a dirt road for a Cub Scout camping trip with my son and two or three bad (for this region) snowstorms when VDOT did not feel like plowing our roads.

Believe it or not, I am smitten with the new Mustang GT and am tempted to buy or lease one after the 2008 models are available. I owned three Mustangs earlier in life and promised myself I would eventually get another one after I 'grew up' and my son was big enough not to need a four-door all the time.
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keylay31 said:
Helps to clean out all the metal machining shavings that might be left in the engine and whatever else is a by product of the manufacturing process, as well as just helps the engine "break in"

This has NEVER been proven. In fact, Honda uses a special break-in additive in their factory oil, at least when i had my CR-V. Thus, Honda does NOT recommend changing your oil before factory recommendations. As for Toyota, i am not sure if Toyota puts in any additive from factory. However, changing oil at 1000 miles has NEVER been proven to be of any benefit. No manufacturer recommends this practice...and they would love to make money on the oil changes...so, you would think that IF this was of benefit, then they would recommend it.

Remember also, oil works best after a few hundred/thousand miles, NOT when it's fresh from the bottle.

People doing this is based on old thinking. Remember, the engine of today is precisely designed and manufactured.

IMHO, doing the 1000 mile oil change is a waste of money/effort with no proven benefit. And, in Honda's case, it may be harmful.
 
Jeff Kleb said:

I changed it again at about 5000 miles (3200 miles later) with Mobil-1 synthetic, and have continued using it ever since. I still change it every 3,500 to 4,000 miles, even though I could probably go much, much longer. Again, peace of mind for me AND no issues with warranty coverage.

My lease on my 2005 4Runner expires in January and the person lucky enough to get it from me 'second-hand' will definitely get his/her money's worth from a car that was well-maintained and hardly broken in. Heck, I probably won't even have 36,000 on it unless I drive it a lot in the next few months. I only have 27,000 and some change on it now.

Although what you did is very honorable, but man, did you waste money!!:D If i were you, then I would buy a vehicle instead of leasing it with all you do.
 
Is This the 70s?

Metal shavings in the engine probably still occur in places that do bulk rebuilds machined to loose tolerances with even poorer finishing. In these cases you will have burrs and flakes from rough edges that find their way into your engine oil once parts start rotating. Modern machining does not produce these types of results: smooth, burrless, ripple-free, polished surfaces are the norm now-a-days.

I often get flack on the truck websites that I hang out on (they cater to off-roading and rebuilding older trucks.) for stating that modern engines are much better than older ones, but I stand by what I say. They simply don't require nearly the attention that older engines require. Change your oil every 5000-7500 miles and you
 

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