2-4" Lift Sway Bar End Link Options...
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Bijan
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Great information!
Thanks for putting in a video.
If you don't mind me saying tho, you could have summed it all up in less than 3 minutes. Not trying to sound like an ass...just constructive
4x4runner2002
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Shoot no video needed just take off the sway bars all together. Gotta save weight somewhere and they don't do anything anyway.
sambishop
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..what?
4x4runner2002
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Did I confuse you?
JayRolla
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Really? They dont do anything. I wonder why all cars pretty much ever made have them then? Over engineering? Must be an Apple thing.
sambishop
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yea man, because they definitely do something. Have you driven a 4runner without a rear sway bar? It's f*cking scary lol. Also, the sway bars are like 10 pounds?
meRockboost
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After a year and a half I'm reinstalling my rear one, just gotta get links. At higher speeds over bumps their is too much....sway.
rallypoint_1
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For me being up around 3" was scary with the stock links. Drove side to side.LOL I can't imagine no sways at all!!
4x4runner2002
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I haven't had front or rear sways for like three years now.
Drove from Cali to va no sways, no issues.
sambishop
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I've never drive a 4runner stock suspension with no sways, but with a 3" lift its sketchy. Even with a stock set up I cant imagine theres no difference without sway bars. They're there for a reason. The first thing that comes to mind would be added stress on the coilovers. Just my opinion.
MattJakobs
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But have you considered the weigh savings?
JayRolla
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I could understand the front only disconnected but not both. But again 861's can be a bit stiff, so much maybe sway bar in rear is not needed?
My brother has a 4th gen on Icon 650's and they sway like crazy compared to my 881's without a sway bar. Even connected he gets a bit of front lean around corners.
d0nkeyxpunch
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You definitely want to keep the front swaybars. I removed both, but had to put the front ones back on because of the sway during quick lane changes at high speeds. Scared the hell out of me.
JayRolla
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Hmm, I always have noticed the complete opposite. Disconnecting rear makes truck sway a lot on the highway. Mountain passes are down right dangerous. Also when wheeling with rear disconnected the body can roll so much that your more likely to hit your body on trail obstacles like tree's and rocks. Also makes it easier to tip since the weight of the body can transfer so much.
IMO keep both connected on the street.
Disconnect front on the trail.
Run extended rear links and sway bar relocation brackets for best of both worlds.
sambishop
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hahahah duuuuuudeeee
liquidnails
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Can anyone sum it up for me? I can't watch the video at work.
phattyduck
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This makes the most sense.
The rear bar brings the rear roll rate back in line with the spring rate of the suspension. The in-board mounted springs mean that the axle will be stiffer in strait compression than in roll without the swaybar. This is where the 'scary tippy' feeling comes from.
In the front, the roll rate and the spring rate are the same, due to the independent suspension. There is less need for a swaybar there (at least, off road). On road, it contributes to good road manners (and makes sure the truck isn't tail happy in corners).
And of course, JayRolla thinks thinks this way... he already posted a thread about it!
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/113165-who-thinks-rear-sway-bars-limit-flex.html
-Charlie
liquidnails
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What's the benefit of extra droop in the front if only the stuffed tire has traction?
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