2002 B&M cooler + Champion Radiator

mendozer

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Thanks to the many threads on cooler installs. BigFishAllDay's was helpful but one thing that threw me for a loop was the orientation of the hard tranny lines. Some sources say passenger side is the sending line others say the one that's more forward is. For me this was the driver's side. Thanks to HopeLessDiamond for pointing out a good source on the accuracy of the lines in this link to Tim's video of the install (directly to part of video about line orientation)

I went with the bigger 70264 vs the more popular 70268. I figured why not go bigger since it has the low temp bypass. I decided to go a little against the grain here and go in line with the radiator. Dr Coffee's point on keeping the immersion aspect of cooling/heating in the radiator is a valid point, but also B&M directly states in instructions that the preferred method is in line with radiator, after the radiator cooler of course. But many people cap off the trans cooler in fear of the pink milkshake.

I took the milkshake out of the equation by getting a Champion Radiator, all aluminum with welded fittings. No corrosion to occur within the trans cooler. A radiator for the rest of this vehicles life and I get to reap the benefits of using the radiator to warm trans fluid in the mornings upon first startup and get addition cooling with it in line with the Supercooler.

I mounted it on the driver's side just due to spacing. It was more convenient as well since I am using the trans cooler in the radiator.

I also put a Magnefine filter on the return line just before it gets back into the transmission hard lines.

Things to note:
The lower passenger side bolt for the radiator sucks. I have an ARB bumper and I found that if I laid on my back looking up to it, my right hand could easily get to the bolt with a socket under the bumper. IDK about OEM bumpers though.
Also, the Champion is a bit wider than OEM and due to this, it seems to interfere with the electrical wiring bundles just in front of the radiator at the body. I dealt with this by using 3 flat washers at every bolt to give a little spacer. I also had to get M8-1.25 x 40 mm bolts to replace my OEM bolts as they were too short to reach the nutserts. In hindsight, 30mm would have been plenty as the stock is about 15 or 16 mm. But they don't interfere with anything, so whatever. Fan shroud bolts went in easily.
The prongs that hold it up also needed to be bent but it was aluminum so easy to bend. I also widened the body holes for the radiator bolts as the new radiator nutserts lining up was every so slightly too narrow (about 1/8" both sides)
The kit comes with 5/16" ID tubing and while it could have worked, I went with 3/8" from the auto store like most people on here. Even that was tight as I had to remove one connection due to error and needed to cut the thing off!
Definitely slice off the tubing from the hard line vs pulling really hard. Save your hands.
I had red coolant in here, plus some universal yellow stuff so I went ahead and did a full flush before doing this mod, just to be sure. I did a full drain first, then ran the hose through every connection until clean water came out, then pulled the thermostat out, reassembled and filled with water through the old radiator, ran the cart until 180 then a final drain before the swap took place.
My OEM radiator seemed fine, but this was one of those "I should just do this in case of..." mods.
Definitely get one of those Lisle spill free funnels. I've used it now three times on all my vehicles and it's AWESOME. No more mess with coolant fills. You can also use it for power steering flushes.
I went ahead and labeled the send and return line on my radiator itself just in case I forget one day haha.

So as an overview:
1. Drain
2. Flush water through every line into the block and radiator
3. pull thermostat
4. fill with water and run car 15 minutes to dilute anything else
5. drain and pull thermostat housing for cleaning (it had coolant gunk on there)
6. Undo fan shroud, trans cooler lines, hoses, unbolt radiator and remove
7. Install B&M on driver's side using zip ties included.
8. Reinstall thermostat (OEM with gasket) and torque housing down to 168 in lbs, or 14 ft lbs.
9. put fan shroud back in, lower radiator in and bolt in place. Torque is 23 ft lbs formally but since I used washers I just went to it was tight.
10. Install fan shroud, connect hoses to radiator (new OEM)
11. route trans cooler lines. Forward hard line goes directly into radiator trans cooler. Exiting follows up through hole in the body (lined with 3/4" heater hose notched every inch) into the top of the Supercooler, oriented sideways. Exiting the bottom, back through the hose-lined hole, following hard lines under the belts into a Magnefine, 3/8" barbs. Then back into return line (the further back hard line).
12. Zip tie hoses and Magnefine in place, using spare 3/4" heater hose for protectinge at friction points.


What wasn't in the kit that I needed:
10' 3/8" ID cooler hose (I used about 8.5 feet)
1' 3/4" heater hose
Toyota red coolant, 2 gallons
Distilled water, 2 gallons (together I have water and coolant leftover as it only used 2.375 gallons of 50/50)
About 2 qts ATF fluid for the cooler and longer lines
4 M8-1.25 bolts that are longer than OEM (40mm is too long, go with 30mm)
12 M8 flat washers
Hose clamps if your OEM ones aren't good

all in all, it wasn't that hard to do, but it was time consuming as things were hard to reach, stuck in place, etc. the usual thing that happens on a 16 year old rig.
 

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Looks good. I have to ask what your coolant temps are now or are you even monitoring them?

The best thing Magnefine has done is gone back to a metal body for its filters. The ABS plastic housing would always leak on me after 15 months or so.
 
On most of my drives (I only drive 15 min to work daily) I used to get up to 180 after maybe 5 minutes of driving. Transmission NEVER got up to temp on any of my drives. By the time I got to work it'd be maybe 120. I'm hoping that maybe the all aluminum (since it's a good conductor) radiator will help with the morning warmups.

I didn't go above 190F coolant temp last night. This is after my 15 minute test to make sure all coolant got in there, then a short drive to the grocery store, including a hill climb to test the tranny temps (stayed under 147). Obviously more rigorous testing needs to be done, but that was just last night.
 
I just put the skid plate back on and realized I had the Magnefine a touch too low, so I repositioned it to the higher hard line. Simple zip tie fix. Keep that in mind. I guess I could have gone on the sending line into the radiator, but space down there was limited for hand tightening things.
 
In theory with the bigger cooler exchanger for the ATF from the Champion, it should make the ATF run even a little cooler, but thanks to the LPD found in the 70264, the B&M won't begin to really be used to cool the ATF until the temp reaches 170F and then it fully opens up at 180F. Or at least that is how mine works.
 
So after driving about 30 minutes again my CWT never went over 190F, trans was 125 on the freeway, but hit a peak of 167 on some hills in residential streets. I tried to drive slowly up hills without Overdrive off or shifting down to make it work harder to temp climbs.

All in all, pretty happy with it. I'll probably do a drain/fill with trans fluid in a couple weeks as I'm due for one.
 
The best thing Magnefine has done is gone back to a metal body for its filters. The ABS plastic housing would always leak on me after 15 months or so.

I bought a couple of plastic ones so that sucks. My transmission was shifting hard and then I find out it was two quarts low from the crappy plastic Magnefine leaking slowly over time.

I really want to hear more long term things about these Champion radiators before buying.
 
I'll keep track of coolant levels, but otherwise it's a welded square, what could go wrong? The coolant barbs on the bottom are connected via flare nuts
 
I bought a couple of plastic ones so that sucks. My transmission was shifting hard and then I find out it was two quarts low from the crappy plastic Magnefine leaking slowly over time.

I really want to hear more long term things about these Champion radiators before buying.

And that is why Magnefine, smartly IMHO, went back to metal/aluminum bodies to prevent such. For an extra $5 to $10, why not. I heard they are using a larger magnet as well. Great concept, but make it worthwhile to use for years, thus giving them more profit down the road.
 
Yesterday it was 82 in Seattle here, not scorching hot by any means. I was running errands for a few hours, no freeway driving and my coolant temps reach a max of 214F and my tranny temps hit up to 207. I started to have a mini panic thinking "shoot did I get my send/return lines mixed up??" since I was thinking that with my cooler, temps shouldn't be that hot. But either way, the cooling would work regardless of line flow since it goes through B&M and radiator anyways. The only thing would be the magnafine as it is directional.

Maybe because I wasn't driving 70 on a freeway to cool off the radiator and tranny cooler???
 
I have to ask if both got that hot with the old set up?

I first have to ask how well you burped the cooling system? Jiggle valve at 6 o'clock?
 
I have to wonder if the high temps were indirectly caused by the fact that you do have the new tranny cooler in line.
If the jiggle valve on the thermostat is at 12, the engine would run 10 to 20 degrees hotter, which directly translates to the coolant that the transmission fluid is Flowing past.

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I agree with Daniel up above. Your thermostat jiggle valve is definitely at the 12 o'clock position. I'd bet money on it. You shouldn't be seeing that high of coolant temps.
 
Scan gauge

I don't remember it going above 200 unless I was climbing serious hills. I did burp it well over a 20 minute period while filling with my lisle funnel. And the Stat is at 6 o clock for sure. I checked coolant the night before actually and the level hasn't dropped

The grill comes off with the arb but it's a major PITA. I had to wiggle it out and up simultaneously
 
Then try and reburp the cooling system first. It may be where there were many pockets of air in the system.

How old is the fan clutch by the way?
 
Then try and reburp the cooling system first. It may be where there were many pockets of air in the system.

How old is the fan clutch by the way?

Since [MENTION=69868]LittleCaesar[/MENTION] brought it up, I figured I'd share this video I made testing and replacing the fan clutch on my 2000. I'm not 100% sure I did all the tests accurately but I pretty much figured out my fan clutch was a little tired and replacing it was a good idea.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WzhlACxqeqQ" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
I say burping, too. Get it facing uphill or on a ramp and leave the radiator cap off as it heats up. Squeeze the lower radiator hose every few minutes.
That or you may have a faulty t-stat.

Either way, I do stand by my thought that the too-hot coolant is in turn heating up the tranny fluid. Whatever the cause of the too-hot coolant may be.

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If your rad cap is operating properly there should not be any burping necessary.

Fill up your cooling system and put the cap on it. Start engine with heat selector on max heat and the vent valve in the cap takes care of the rest.

Around 3 heat cycles you are done topping off the overflow tank.


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