2002 bumper paint adhesion

FateOne

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The bumper on my 2002 Sport Edition (Thundercloud Silver Metalic) has large portions of paint gone. It looks like it had chipped and when the previous owner washed it the paint flaked off. I've read here and other forums somewhere that the metallic paint seems to have adhesion problems.

My question is, is there a way to retouch this myself and have it look decent and not flake off again or take more paint off with it? Or do I need to take it in and have the bumper pulled off, and stripped, and repainted with special adhesion additive stuff/primer coat? I don't care if it looks perfect, just so long as it doesn't look horrible. I'm planning on getting a grill guard eventually anyway. It won't cover up the spot where the paint is gone but will hopefully at least draw attention away from it.
 
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I have an '02 Sport - same color as yours and my front bumper chips very easily and is flaking off.

It is the original paint too.

My guess is that the only option is to repaint the whole thing. Probably not worth it for me.
 
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You guys that are saying it's original paint.. are you sure?
Ive only seen that happen with replacement bumpers. OEM covers dont typically flake. Replacement bumpers flake because they arent prepped properly and they come from toyota unprimed and still have mold release agent on them. If properly cleaned/baked/adhesive promoter applied I dont see any issues with replicating the factory adhesion.


edit-$300-400 should cover it in Va but, rates vary state to state.
 
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hkspwrsche said:
You guys that are saying it's original paint.. are you sure?

I don't know for sure that it is factory paint. There are no signs of it being in an accident and the Carfax on it was clean, although the last record Carfax had was from 2003 :( The guy I talked to when I had a prepurchase inspection (and again this week when I had it in for 90k service) said that at the autobody place he used to work they saw a lot of 2000-2002 Toyotas with paint adhesion problems on the bumper. I don't know how trustworthy he is though. I don't think they tensioned things properly when they replaced my timing belt as it squeals really badly and I want to take it back to them and see what they can do.
 
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FateOne said:
I don't know for sure that it is factory paint. There are no signs of it being in an accident and the Carfax on it was clean, although the last record Carfax had was from 2003 :( The guy I talked to when I had a prepurchase inspection (and again this week when I had it in for 90k service) said that at the autobody place he used to work they saw a lot of 2000-2002 Toyotas with paint adhesion problems on the bumper. I don't know how trustworthy he is though. I don't think they tensioned things properly when they replaced my timing belt as it squeals really badly and I want to take it back to them and see what they can do.


Ive been in a body shop for the last 14 years and the only paint adhesion problems that toyotas are notorious for (that I'm aware of) are the "RAW bumpers" Toyota doesnt sell the bumpers primed but, raw right out of the mold. Never seen factory toyota paint peel off in sheets.


FYI- Carfax doesnt know everything. Lots of ways for repairs to happen and never show up on carfax. The more common $500 deductibles are getting ....a lot of pay out of pocket bumper jobs will get past carfax that will never show. No insurance co to report it to NICB.
 
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My 01 of the same color isn't peeling or anything. We bought it used in Feb 04.

As for carfax, I look at the reports when I'm looking to buy a car, but I have a 93 accord that has been declared a total loss THREE times by insurance and it shows all clear on carfax, and I also have a 00 Accord that was declared a total loss a year ago that also shows all clear on carfax. (if you are wondering I took the payoff minus salvage value and had the cars repaired as the damage was cosmetic and the cars had both been purchased new by me or a family member and we take VERY good care of our cars).

Carfax doesn't have access to insurance records. If an insurance company doesn't call carfax and say "This car is totalled" carfax doesn't report it. If you read the fine print carfax offers their "buyback guarantee" it says "None of these major title problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). If you find that any of these title problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back." What that means is if our DMV doesn't report the problem to carfax (and how many DMV's do you think feel obligated to report to carfax?) it is YOUR problem, and not carfax's.

I run a carfax to see if any problems show up. If they do it's a definate red flag, but if it shows up all clear I still have no confidence at all that the car is clean.
 
wm69 said:


I run a carfax to see if any problems show up. If they do it's a definate red flag, but if it shows up all clear I still have no confidence at all that the car is clean.

I don't totally trust Carfax either.

Getting back on topic.. could I put a chrome bumper cover on instead of having mine repainted? Would it look okay with the Thundercloud paint?
 

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