2003 4runner vs 2007 FJ cruiser SPECIAL SITUATION

alex1206

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Hi Guys
I know this has been covered before, but my situation is very specific. One year ago, I bought a 03 4runner. It's been a great car, I have the V8 Limited 2wd. The torque is amazing, and recently I even installed tundra 17s on the car. This was the best mod ever as the tundra 17s are 15mm and the stock 4runner are 30mm. I replaced the stock shocks with Bilstein oem replacements. The added track width increased highway stability SO MUCH you would not believe. It is very stiff in the sweepers and hardly rolls. Probably handles better than a porsche cayenne S. It handles very well, I have track experience, and am very happy with what this suv can do. I also have a aftermarket Pioneer Navigation system DVD player.

The car currently has 85k miles, and needs new rotors, brake pads, and will be needing the timing belt service all within the next year. I should also clean the throttle body. All this equals to at around 1200 dollars as I would only use quality aftermarket pads and rotors. I bought the car for 16.7k including tax and license- used one year ago, including the shocks I am in about 17.2k. The car is under warranty for another couple months, and it has a slowly developing exhaust rattle at very very low rpms, which is most likely a gasket- I have not yet fixed but it will be covered, just probably have to pay my 50 deductible and maybe a little bit more to diagnose.

Now, I went to the dealership and found a 07 FJ cruiser Black 6 speed 4wd with 45k miles. The car is a package 1 without the roof rack, also has that compass thing. Parking sensor, traction control, rear lsd locker. The car looks perfect. I checked everything and everything looks so clean and perfect, the rotors show no signs of hard braking, the tires are original at 45k miles and show very little wear. Original owner traded it in, the car is beautiful and drove like new. The tires were made in october of 06, I do not know when the car was manufactured. I have driven stock FJs and the TRD shock equipped one. This FJ drove very well, shifted very well, the engine response was very good. I think I can get this car for 20k out the door if I try hard enough.

Now, the FJ cruiser has softer suspension. It rolls a bit more, doesn't handle as good as much 4runner but has 40k miles less. I live in LA, and we drive all highway, but there are trails that I am sure I will visit. Also, my 4runner has the noisy moonroof, the fj cruiser was so quiet I could not believe. 4runner is way faster in terms of horsepower, and can tow, but it is getting older and will require big services soon, $1200 within a year.

If I can sell the 4runner for 15k, should I tag on another 5k and get the FJ cruiser? It is newer, has 40,000 fewer miles, and if we include the cost of that 1200 upcoming service I need to do on the runner, the FJ will only be an extra 3800 dollars. and it's 4 years newer.

Seems like a no brainer huh? I am a student who doesn't have that much income, some of these above costs will be financed for credit purposes. I also want to learn to fly propeller airplanes this summer, that will cost 4500. Should I just keep the 4runner, do the services, and just run it for another 50k miles, or should i just pay get the FJ and dont' worry about any maintenance for the next four years. I guess I will still find a way to take my flying classes.

Thanks in advance guys!!!
 
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Mmmm. Half of me wants to say go for it, you're young, have fun, get the FJ. But the other half of me says, save your money for the flying lessons and/or put into investment/savings (i.e. don't spend more credit = bad), meaning get the FJ later when you have a better stream of income, which could be in a bunch of years however. By then you'll probably want something else, LOL. Hope that helps. :p
 
to make matters more complicated, i found out that early this year, when toyota was giving dealership incentive credits to move the cars(3-4k), that FJ cruisers were selling at a 24.5k OTD for BRAND NEW package 2s. And I almost bought a car with 45k miles for 20k... although i still want one... haha..

The FJ cruiser has the weirdest resale value of any car out there. Those guys that bought those cars for 24.5k literally could put 30k miles on them, and sell them back or trade them back in for almost the same amount. If i were lucky enough to have been in the market jan. of this year, I would probably drive the car as much as i could for no more than two years and sell the car, and literally only lose 2-3k in depreciation.

all this goes to fortify a definition of luck i once heard from a military man. Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
 
It's a tough call. IMHO if you get the trans, radiator and brake fluid serviced in addition to t-belt/water pump I think the T4R has way more than 50k left in it. I'd bet you could see 160-170k without major expenses which would finish off school. I'd be tempted to go that route as it'll cost you significantly less in the long run. That's just my 2cents.
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I have no advice for you...this is up to you and your needs.

However, early FJs (hell, even 2008 FJs) are prone to this: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?threadid=30130

So, you can buy the FJ...but beware of this potential problem. I would check on the FJ that you are looking at now and see if you can spot the fender damage. This fender bulging is NOT covered by any extended warranty.

Good luck.
 
Being a student, I'd recommend keeping the 4Runner for now instead of jumping in to another vehicle since you'll still have to pay for tax on the new vehicle, which isnt cheap.

You may also think about buying an extended warranty if you believe you'll have problems after the current warranty expires, but only do that if you can commit to keeping the 4Runner another few years.

This also assumes that you don't have rich parents who will be paying for this. If you do, then ignore what I'm saying.
 
Thai said:
I have no advice for you...this is up to you and your needs.

However, early FJs (hell, even 2008 FJs) are prone to this: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?threadid=30130

So, you can buy the FJ...but beware of this potential problem. I would check on the FJ that you are looking at now and see if you can spot the fender damage. This fender bulging is NOT covered by any extended warranty.

Good luck.
^^ I just read that thread. :nono:
I've always hugely liked the FJ Cruiser (the 4Runner is still far more practical :D), but now I wouldn't consider acquiring the current generation FJ. Just my opinion, but I'd wait until the next generation addresses the front fender/body/frame issue (appears to be affecting as much as 1/4 of active FJ forum members) and improvements like better enty/exit for the rear passenger doors, power rear hatch window, better driving visibility, etc. I realize this may be asking too much however . . .
 

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