2003 Land Rover Discovery II

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FourWheeler Road Test of Disco II--in "The Ultimate 4x4" Test

Road Tests
Fourth Place

Land Rover long has been known for producing capable off-road vehicles. When you see pictures of folks exploring remote regions of the world where such luxuries as paved roads don’t exist, what you often see is a caravan of Land Rovers. Not until the last two decades has Land Rover gone the wine-and-cheese route and become an upscale luxury vehicle.

Lucky for us, though, Land Rover still has dirt in its blood and builds vehicles with off-road use in mind. As long as Land Rover buyers aren’t trying to outrun elephants in Africa. That’s ’cause we found that speed—speed anywhere—isn’t a Land Rover thing. We found our Disco’s suspension to be hopelessly soft in our high-speed test section. This section consists of a nasty desert road, and offers a difficult mixture of whoops, wash-outs, berms, and uneven terrain. It gives suspensions a real workout, which is exactly why we use it. The Disco did its best impression of a pogo stick on amphetamines over this section, as it would quickly blow through its travel, bottom out, and then leap skyward seemingly uncontrolled by shock rebound damping. Not helping was a set of extremely street-oriented tires that simply did not provide traction in the dirt at speed. The only solution was to slow way down and traverse the road at a very leisurely pace—which was not on the dance card for a section labeled, “high speed.”

On rougher, slower trails the Disco fared better. Solid axles suspended by coils provided sufficient articulation, but more than one tester noted that the suspension was a tad soft even while creeping in low range. When articulation ran out, the Four-Wheel Electronic Traction Control (4ETC) system would kick in. This system works by detecting wheel slippage through a combination of sensors and then applies brake pressure to the wheels with the least traction, thereby transferring power to the wheels with traction. Got that? Good. Anyway, this system met mixed reviews by our judges, a bunch of picky whiners if there ever was. While it’s light-years ahead in terms of performance when compared to the other electronic traction control systems we have come across, the Disco still needed wheelspin to engage. This fact meant that the Rover would sometimes falter because the 4ETC system would do nothing until there was wheelspin—and by that time it was too late.

Another source of complaint from our judges was the power output of the 4.0L all-aluminum V-8. It produces 250 lb-ft of torque at 2,600 rpm and that was found to be sufficient. However, this device builds just 188 horsepower at 4,750 rpm, and with the Disco weighing in at 4,600 pounds, we were all left lusting for more. Yes, this is a competition, and yes, there are winners and losers. But just ’cause the Disco placed Fourth does not mean it is a bad vehicle. All of the vehicles in this test surprised us with their off-road abilities and the Discovery went everywhere the other vehicles did—though not with the same ease and aplomb. However, when compared to many of the other soccer-mom SUVs out there, the Disco will beat them silly with its off-road ability.

Check It Out If:
You need a luxo-ute that can still cruise the trails.

Forget It If:
Getting somewhere quickly is a priority.

In 25 Words or Less...
The Discovery is very comfortable, capable 4x4 that holds its own on the trail. However, it gets a little squirrely on high-speed bumps. —Michael Rudd

Rather odd but very sophisticated with its mix of beam axles and traction control. Too heavy, though, and not enough front suspension. —Jon Thompson

Lots of attention paid to creature comforts and less paid to off-pavement abilities. More at home in Beverly Hills than on the trail. —Trent Riddle

What hurt the Land Rover the most was its horrid high-speed handling. That, and not near-enough horsepower. —Craig Perronne
 
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Truckin's SUV Magazine Review for SUV of the Year comparo

Land Rover Discovery HSE
Proof That Disco Isn't Dead

The Land Rover Discovery was at a disadvantage when it entered this competition. First, only a couple of judges had any experience with the previous versions of this vehicle, and second, the competition involved little off-road driving, which remains an undeniable strong suit for the Disco. The way the Discovery drives and behaves on the road is very different from any other SUV on the market, and its high seating position, while providing an excellent view of the highway, takes some getting used to. Yet, despite the notable differences between this British-born SUV and the other competitors, the Discovery beat the odds and surprised the judges with the well-rounded package it provides for 2003.

The judges who had spent time in the earlier Discoveries knew that they had problems with body roll and were propelled by lethargic powerplants. Thanks to dramatic improvements to the suspension, body roll was greatly reduced in the new Discovery. In addition, the Disco received a new engine and transmission for this model year, giving it the drivetrain that had been previously seen in the Range Rover. The 4.6L aluminum V-8 has 217 hp, 30 more than the 4.0L V-8 it replaced. The new engine is backed by an electronically controlled four-speed automatic transmission. These changes made the Discovery much more fun to drive on windy roads, and gave it the needed power to survive on the cutthroat freeways of the Los Angeles metropolis. Testers that were driving a Land Rover for the first time found it to have exceptional power. The judges also found the acceleration very impressive. The Discovery attacked both freeway and street alike with confidence and poise not seen in previous models. However, most testers agreed that the turning radius of the Disco left something to be desired.

The Land Rover's interior was also improved for 2003, with a new color leather, redesigned gauges, and a new instrument cluster. The interior has a decidedly English feel, with indicators and gauges that feel more world-inspired and less familiar to American eyes. While it was relatively quick and painless to adjust to the different symbols for operations such as cruise control, the testers had much less favorable experiences with the combination stereo/navigation system.

Manufacturers have to walk a fine line when designing a system that serves both purposes: They have to make sure the system contains the complete navigational functions (of which there are often many) and is easy to use, without sacrificing the ease of use of the stereo. This is especially critical in a vehicle that has a high-quality stereo system, and most vehicles that offer a nav system do have a stereo that is worth listening to. The Land Rover is no exception. Our tester came with a harmon/kardon 320-watt, 17-speaker stereo with a six-disc CD changer. Unfortunately, the testers consistently had trouble changing between preset stations, tuning to other stations, and switching between audio sources while driving. One even broke with American tradition and read the owner's manual to figure out how to operate the stereo. On the up side, the navigation system worked quite well and offered a great deal of versatility in a pleasantly compact package.

Land Rover made tremendous improvements to the Discovery for 2003 by building on what was good about the Discovery and fixing its shortcomings. The '03 Disco did not lose any of its dirt-handling capabilities, or its distinctive styling. The vehicle is now faster, better balanced, and feels more in touch with the road. The front end was given a fresh look, including a headlight design that is reminiscent of that found on the new '03 Range Rover. People who have driven this vehicle on the trail know that it has tremendous off-road prowess. The combination of the Discovery's interior comfort and versatile platform continues to give buyers one of the best combinations of rugged luxury money can buy.

Base Price: $40,350
Price As Tested: $41,495
Engine: 4.6L OHV V-8
Horsepower: 217 hp at 4,750 rpm
Torque: 300 lb-ft at 2,600 rpm
Suspension: Solid-axle, single-rate coil-springs (front); solid-axle, multi-rate coil-springs (rear)
Brakes: ABS disc (front & rear)
4WD/Transmission: Permanent 4WD with two-speed transfer case/four-speed electronically controlled automatic
Wheelbase: 100 in
Length: 185.2 in
Width: 74.4 in
Height: 76.4 in
Curb Weight: 4,908 lb
Towing Capacity: 7,700 lb (with trailer brakes)
Fuel Economy (city/highway): 12/16 mpg
 
Here is more pics of '05 Disco

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2005 Disco??

The first new Landie in the Ford era heads down the road.
by Brenda Priddy 4/20/2003

Built on its very own platform, the next Disco will share bits and pieces with Ford’s Explorer, an engine rumored to be co-developed with Peugeot (a 2.7-liter V-6), and possibly even a V-8 borrowed from Jaguar. But, even with all the international input, production will remain in the United Kingdom.

Short- and long-wheelbase versions are expected to be available, with seating options for five or seven. Styling will remain traditional with the “Alpine” roof windows and a stepped roofline, but details will be updated and modernized. Both on-road and off-road handling is said to be improved in the vehicle, code-named the L319, and it’s just about ready for the production line.
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That's more like it! However, that IRS sure looks low to the ground and ugly in design! :sick:
 
It will be interesting to see what it looks like once they take that tent off of it :D However, "bits and pieces" of a Ford Explorer powered by a Peugeot engine does not sound very appealing to me :p
 
Land Rover to Build G4 Discovery Model

Land Rover to Build G4 Discovery Model

NEW YORK, NY - The New York International Auto Show saw the debut of the all-new Land Rover G4 Edition Discovery. Designed to showcase the capability of Discovery, Land Rover will build a limited number of Discoverys modeled after the vehicles currently in use at the Land Rover G4 Challenge event.

Off-road capability is at the core of the Land Rover G4 Edition Discovery. The combination of a 4.6 liter, 217hp V8 engine, five-speed automatic transmission, two-speed transfer case with locking center differential, four-wheel electronic traction control (ETC), and Self-Leveling Suspension (SLS) give the Discovery G4 Edition it's greatest off-road capability ever.

“With this vehicle, we will capture the excitement of the event in a limited edition,” said Greg Gilliland, Discovery model manager. "The G4 Edition Discovery is a vehicle designed specifically with the off-road enthusiast in mind and its capabilities are being showcased throughout the G4 Challenge."

The Land Rover G4 Edition Discovery is painted in Tangiers Orange, just like the real competition vehicles and features an all-new, larger diameter roof rail design called the "Aero" Roof Rail system. Full exterior protection includes the Discovery front A-frame brush bar and rear lamp guards. On the inside the G4 Edition Discovery features an all-new "Foundry" trim finish that includes seats upholstered in “Black Mogul” technical fabric - a material unique to the Land Rover G4 Edition. An in-dash CD player, black leather-wrapped steering wheel, as well as driver and passenger electric seats, complete the G4 interior.

Only 200 of the Discovery G4 Edition will be built with pricing expected to be under $39,000. Availability will be in the third quarter of 2003.
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Buy a Land Rover...and you can do these things too!

Mud, sweat and gears
Story and photos by Grant Yoxon

Land Rover Experience 4X4 Driving School

Montebello, Quebec - As if a week’s worth of heavy rain wasn’t enough, the black flies swarmed so thick the video people thought they were shooting through fog. Then the off-road all-terrain tires were back-ordered and most of the vehicles couldn't make it up the first challenging slope. To make matters worse, all had to be winched up the last few feet by a real 4x4, a Land Rover Defender that, unfortunately, isn’t even sold here.

The author driving a Freelander. Photo: Land Rover.
It could have been a public relations disaster except the Land Rovers, even the Freelanders, proved to be capable off-roaders, even on street tires. You can always count on the weather to throw you some surprises.

Although a bad weather plan should have been at the top of Land Rover’s contingency list, apparently it wasn’t. In hindsight, a stock of good mud tires might have made the difference.

This little romp in the woods was meant to be the big send off for Land Rover’s first North American Land Rover Experience 4x4 driving school. And while a dozen journalists beat up on their vehicles and carved deep ruts into the forest trails of the Kenauk Park, the folks at Land Rover Canada had a chance to consider the importance of planning and their commitment to Treadlightly, the organization dedicated to environmentally responsible off-roading, of which they are a founding member.

Kenauk is a vast 26,000-hectare wilderness preserve operated by the Fairmont Le Chateau Montebello in Montebello, Quebec. The area has miles of gravel roads and dedicated off-road trails with enough variety and difficulty to challenge drivers of all skill levels. With a fine hotel in an unspoiled natural setting, Chateau Montebello and Kenauk Park are perfect for an off-road driving school. And it should have been a perfect setting to showcase the capability of Land Rover’s Sport Utility Vehicles.

And in truth, it was. The vehicles, two upscale Range Rovers, two mid-size Discoveries and two compact Freelanders performed extremely well given conditions that would have sent any ordinary SUV back to the hotel.

With electronic air suspension, speed-sensitive power steering, hill descent control, 4-wheel electronic traction control, automatically locking centre differential and 281 milimetres (11.1 inches) of ground clearance, the Range Rover is one formidable off-road vehicle.

Not as big, luxurious or powerful as the Range Rover, the Discovery is no less capable off-road with permanent four-wheel drive, a two-speed transfer gear box, four-wheel electronic traction control and 208 mm (8.2 in) of ground clearance under the differential and more under the frame.

Though less adept than its big brothers, the Freelander offers off-road capability rarely seen in the compact SUV category where most of its competitors are better described as foul weather vehicles rather than off-road vehicles. Minimum ground clearance under the front axle is 186 mm (7.3 in).

But the Freelander could have used a few more milimetres. Despite its surprising ability to scurry up slippery slopes, navigate miles of mud and ford radiator deep streams, the Freelander constantly bottomed out on the rough Kenauk trails. At first we were a bit sensitive to the sounds of damage beneath us, but our guides assured us that we were only scraping the skid plate protecting the mechanical essentials. “It’s just noise,” said one, “Don’t worry about it.”

And every time we banged into a rock, my driving partner and I would echo the refrain, “it’s just noise” and continue on. At least it wasn’t my Freelander.

Ground clearance was never really a problem with the Discovery or the Range Rover, but weight did prove to be a factor when the mud slogging got really tough.

And tough it was. It didn’t matter whether we were crossing a bog or skirting a hill, everywhere we went there was mud and plenty of it. And traveling in a convoy just made matters worse as each vehicle would churn up the ground and the one following would attempt to avoid the deep ruts left by the one in front, leaving more ruts behind.

I asked Bert Coates, Executive Directory of Treadlightly Canada, who was along for the ride, if a responsible off-roader would choose not to go into the woods when conditions were as wet as this. “Well, yes,” he replied. “That would be a wise choice.”

The off-road trails at Kenauk are dedicated for that purpose and vehicles don’t go elsewhere. But it took us over three hours to negotiate a trail inch by excruciating inch that I could have walked in less than half and hour without any mud on my boots.

And I would have to question the sanity of anyone who would drive a $104,000 Range Rover any further afield than the cow path to the cottage unless they had one heck of a good reason, not to mention lots of money.

The Defender makes a whole lot more sense for an activity such as this. As far as I could see, our Defender winch truck never had any difficulty with even the worst of Kenauk’s rain soaked terrain. A purpose-built vehicle, simple and sturdy, a true 4X4, the Defender is sold just about everywhere in the world except North America. Pity.

Land Rover Experience packages range from a two-hour “Taste of Adventure” to full-day lessons that conform to the standards set for Land Rover Experience training around the world. Discovery and Freelander buyers qualify for a free half-day First Experience course, while Range Rover buyers get a full-day Total Experience course. Land Rover Experience courses are open to anyone, with prices ranging from $195 per person for two hours in a Freelander or Discovery to $395 per person for a full day “Total Experience” course in any of Land Rover’s vehicles. A full day Advanced Experience course is available to those who have completed the Total Experience course for $490.

Hotel packages including breakfast and supper, a boxed lunch and a half-day First Experience course start at $433 per person. Call Fairmont Le Chateau Montebello at 1-800-870-7619 to register for the Land Rover Experience 4X4 driving school.
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