JohnsD90
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might i suggest you delete our whole argument, just so it doesnt ruin the thread of this car.
2010 Prius
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might i suggest you delete our whole argument, just so it doesnt ruin the thread of this car.
Thai
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It's OK. TDI vs. Hybrid will be a never ending argument. It all depends on your view on the matter. I like diesel for the torque (and power in general) and the relatively good MPGs, but disadvantages of owning one (e.g. diesel gas stations are not as numerous, weird noises in cold weather, rough idle, etc.) outweighs its advantages in a sedan. (Don't get me wrong, TDI would be great in a SUV or truck where the torque is appreciated more.) The hybrid technology allows for better fuel economy yet runs on regular gas...gas that you find at every corner of the street. But, the battery does need to be replaced every 100,000-120,000 miles. Of course, the battery and charger have a factory warranty up until that period (or 8 years). So, in essence, a hybrid car's powertrain is probably more reliable with lower maintenance cost at least in the 1st 100,000 miles or 8 years of ownership. You just can't match that in any TDI sedan. On the other hand, TDI sedan does provide much more power, which is something that a hybrid will never match, unless you get one of those super luxury hybrids, GS450h or LS600h.
John, what does the VW Jetta TDI get from 0-60?? I wonder who is faster...a Camry Hybrid vs. Jetta TDI. According to Car & Driver, the Camry Hybrid goes from 0-60 in 7.5 (or something around 7 range). This is why i think that the Camry Hybrid may be the best hybrid for its price and real-world driving. (Of course, the Camry itself is not a great handler.)
JohnsD90
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diesel stations are in high numbers around me, the jetta is in 6-7 seconds on 0-60(its a little tweaked, just check the mods on it) its got now 196flbs of torque, yeah i hear the hybrids are quick. And i guess i just dont care about the noises the jetta makes. And those Hybrid SUV's are terrible and you would have to agree on that, they have like a 75 year payback on them.
JohnsD90
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its so some ******* can say they are helping the environment by driving a vehicle that has a hybrid tag on it.
Thai
Elite Member
Another car that i would consider is the 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid. I may just get this (down the road) over the Camry Hybrid. The ONLY big negative thing for me is that it does not come with HomeLink (almost a must-have for me). Otherwise, it drives better than the Camry Hybrid (and also Prius), better stereo/navi integration, and more safety features. One more negative about it is that it got only an average rating on its roof strength from IIHS...however, it has active headrests while the Camry Hybrid does not. So, i guess that i have to decide whether i get into more rear-end collisions or rollovers. 
My bet that i would be more likely to be involved in a rear-end hit than a rollover in a sedan.
My bet that i would be more likely to be involved in a rear-end hit than a rollover in a sedan.
Another car that i would consider is the 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid. I may just get this (down the road) over the Camry Hybrid. The ONLY big negative thing for me is that it does not come with HomeLink (almost a must-have for me). Otherwise, it drives better than the Camry Hybrid (and also Prius), better stereo/navi integration, and more safety features. One more negative about it is that it got only an average rating on its roof strength from IIHS...however, it has active headrests while the Camry Hybrid does not. So, i guess that i have to decide whether i get into more rear-end collisions or rollovers.
Thai have you ruled out the Honda Insight and Civic hybrids?
Thai
Elite Member
Honda's hybrid system is far inferior to that of Toyota and that found in the Fusion Hybrid. In addition, Honda vehicles for the most part are fairly noisy on the highway (esp. road noise). I spend most of my time on the highway and i want quiet ride. And because i spend most of my time on the highway, this is why i have not jumped on the Prius...yet. Although the Prius is bigger for 2010, it still seems to be on the Corolla-size. Around Texas highways, you see trucks and big ass SUVs...and i just don't have confidence in the Prius crashing into these monsters on the highway.
So, my possible future car will be among the three mentioned: 2010 Prius Level V, 2010 Camry Hybrid (with all options except NAVI), and 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid (with all options except NAVI).
