zstampe
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Jk flyer, I love the new wranglers and would trade my 4r for one in a heartbeat......and yes I love my 4r also.
2012 Wrangler...IT'S OFFICIAL!
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Jk flyer, I love the new wranglers and would trade my 4r for one in a heartbeat......and yes I love my 4r also.
Not cheap but I paid $31,000 for my Rubicon- Auto. So I took it out this weekend with 10-12 other Jeep guys (and gals). I was absolutely shocked at how this Jeep just crawls through areas I was pretty apprehensive about. It is really purpose-built for off-roading. Bad thing- the trails are so narrow that I got it well scratched up. Oh well. Sorry, I was too tense and focused to take any pics of those trail...I will next time. I had my swaybars disconnected and used my rear lockers once.
Thai
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Compared to the Rubi, the GC SRT is like a supercharged minivan!!
It still hurt and like my 4R, I should have bought a white Wrangler. Next time, I'll just take a chainsaw, and trim up the place.
Yeah, the 4R would have been gouged all over and hit bottom a few times. I am not taking it to this area now that I have the Wrangler. Just for fun, I asked my GF if I should sell the 4R. Answer- "Are you crazy? You will hate yourself later. Sell the Subaru". I was just kidding to get her reaction...we absolutely love that 4.7L in the 4R, and the 4R in general.
Maritimer
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Our 3rds are actually shorter and skinnier. The Rubicon is probably better off-road in general, though. Sad thing is that most of them (Runners and Jeeps) won't see more than a curb at the mall, though. Nice to see Jeeps actually doing Jeep stuff.
So after about 3,000 miles total and a week spent on almost every major trail and Pass in the Telluride-Ouray area, the Wrangler is nicely broken-in. I get a bit over 21 MPG at 70-75 MPH and about 23-24 at 55-60 MPH. In the city, I get about 18.5 and mixed gets me 20 with the stock 32 BFG KMs (good offroad tires).
Southwest Colorado is amazing and there are trails and passes that will leave you breathless in awe (and terrified in one case). Since there were just two of us, we took the Jeep to test it out. I kept it in 4Lo almost all the time and had the swaybar disconnected about 70% of the time...that really helped.
The Jeep is absolutely amazing offroad. I rarely used the front and rear lockers except for one loose and steep switchback where I was losing traction backing up (you have to do a 4-5 point turn) and on on long/loose climb. That short wheelbase helps it be very nimble and it starts to shine as the trail becomes slower and rougher. The solid axle's articulation and travel is at home the rougher the trail gets. It will claw up loose and steep slopes like a grippy spider.
I actually founds the guts to do the infamous Black Bear Pass which has see a couple of fatalities off those insane switchbacks. I must admit it was a bit terrifying for me, but I was past the point of no return. I has my friend walk the Steps and the following switchback, so I did not kill us both...if I rolled it.
It is is a very addicting purpose-built machine for trails and exploring. I have started driving it more since the seat base is longer and pretty comfortable, but it is still primarily my weekend toy. The comfort comes from that longer seat and it is surprisingly unlike the old stiff Wranglers. The suspension is pretty compliant on pavement, though some find it too soft off-road. I like it as-is, but will put on a 3" lift so I can fit some bigger tires soon enough. That way, I don't have to pick lines so carefully. That becomes stressful after a few hours.
Here are some pictures and a couple of vids in Photobucket which I will upload soon. It's about 10% of the total.
Telluride-Ouray Jeep Vacation June 2012 pictures by FlyerPics - Photobucket
A few pictures copied:
Southwest Colorado is amazing and there are trails and passes that will leave you breathless in awe (and terrified in one case). Since there were just two of us, we took the Jeep to test it out. I kept it in 4Lo almost all the time and had the swaybar disconnected about 70% of the time...that really helped.
The Jeep is absolutely amazing offroad. I rarely used the front and rear lockers except for one loose and steep switchback where I was losing traction backing up (you have to do a 4-5 point turn) and on on long/loose climb. That short wheelbase helps it be very nimble and it starts to shine as the trail becomes slower and rougher. The solid axle's articulation and travel is at home the rougher the trail gets. It will claw up loose and steep slopes like a grippy spider.
I actually founds the guts to do the infamous Black Bear Pass which has see a couple of fatalities off those insane switchbacks. I must admit it was a bit terrifying for me, but I was past the point of no return. I has my friend walk the Steps and the following switchback, so I did not kill us both...if I rolled it.
It is is a very addicting purpose-built machine for trails and exploring. I have started driving it more since the seat base is longer and pretty comfortable, but it is still primarily my weekend toy. The comfort comes from that longer seat and it is surprisingly unlike the old stiff Wranglers. The suspension is pretty compliant on pavement, though some find it too soft off-road. I like it as-is, but will put on a 3" lift so I can fit some bigger tires soon enough. That way, I don't have to pick lines so carefully. That becomes stressful after a few hours.
Here are some pictures and a couple of vids in Photobucket which I will upload soon. It's about 10% of the total.
Telluride-Ouray Jeep Vacation June 2012 pictures by FlyerPics - Photobucket
A few pictures copied:
Thanks, Thai. It does get pretty decent mileage, and I was a bit surprised at the mileage at 55-65 on the highway. It does well enough stock, so it will stay stock for now. It begs me to go exploring every weekend, so I try to get out more. I probably put 1,000 miles on this past week while I was on vacation.
Colorado is especially nice for exploring since in addition to the forest service roads and trails, we have roads built by the old mining companies that went into every major mountain and pass. There are hundreds of miles of this, so it begs you to not stay on pavement. We are fortunate, and I pick a new trail or pass each time.
I think next week or two, I'll try to meet up with some 4R guys from Colorado Springs and go exploring. I'll try to get the Jeep and Toyota guys together at some point too. Now if we can fix the FJ's blind spot and get a solid front axle on it....:bluejump:
Colorado is especially nice for exploring since in addition to the forest service roads and trails, we have roads built by the old mining companies that went into every major mountain and pass. There are hundreds of miles of this, so it begs you to not stay on pavement. We are fortunate, and I pick a new trail or pass each time.
I think next week or two, I'll try to meet up with some 4R guys from Colorado Springs and go exploring. I'll try to get the Jeep and Toyota guys together at some point too. Now if we can fix the FJ's blind spot and get a solid front axle on it....:bluejump:
