2014 Honda Odyssey...could be my next car!

[Thai]

Wow, this may be my midlife crisis car!! Sad, isn't it?!

Link: Honda Odyssey rolls out with a built-in vacuum, almost makes a minivan sound appealing

 

[Thai]

2014 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite® Makes World Debut in New York with Host of Safety Upgrades and Innovations Including HondaVAC™, the First In-Car Vacuum

The segment's benchmark minivan cleans up with bevy of safety improvements, sleek new styling and intuitive, family-friendly technologies

The 2014 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite® is making its debut at the 2013 New York International Auto Show (NYIAS), setting the new 'ultimate family vehicle' standard. Thoroughly refreshed for 2014, the Odyssey Touring Elite® provides core safety upgrades, sharpened exterior styling and a revised interior with a host of new features and technologies designed to make the segment's benchmark minivan even better.

Demonstrating trademark Honda innovation, the 2014 Odyssey Touring Elite® will also mark the debut of HondaVAC™, the first-ever in-vehicle vacuum system. Available exclusively in the Odyssey Touring Elite® trim, the all-new HondaVAC™ system is part of a thorough refresh of the Honda Odyssey for the 2014 model year, adding to its already class-leading fuel economy ratings and unmatched safety ratings. The 2014 Odyssey will go on sale at Honda dealerships nationwide this summer.

"The Odyssey is already the leader in its segment, and for 2014, Honda has made the modern family hauler even better," said Michael Accavitti, vice president of marketing operations at American Honda. "Honda is once again showcasing its reputation for innovation with HondaVAC, and its ability to provide true value to our customers."

The 2014 Honda Odyssey brings an array of improvements to Honda's minivan, including structural upgrades expected to help it achieve top marks in the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's (IIHS) stringent new small-overlap frontal crash test, which is part of IIHS's new TOP SAFETY PICK+ protocol. The refreshed Odyssey Touring Elite® will also come equipped with advanced Honda driver assistive and visibility technologies such as an Expanded View Driver's Mirror, Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and Lane Departure Warning (LDW).

The 2014 Odyssey features sleeker, more sophisticated exterior styling with a new, more deeply sculpted aluminum hood, new aluminum front fenders, a new bolder twin-bar grille, and a revised lower front fascia with integrated chrome-trimmed fog lights. New two-tone mirror housings, darker-finish projector-beam headlight housings, LED taillight bars and new badging add to the 2014 Odyssey's premium look.

Inside the 2014 Odyssey, new finishes brighten the cabin and an all-new center stack showcases a host of new features. Additional standard technology on the Odyssey Touring Elite® brings new levels of ease and connectivity to owners, including keyless Smart Entry with Push Button Start, HD Radio®, an SMS text messaging function, and HondaLink™ featuring Aha™ Mobile interface. HondaLink™, which debuted on the 2013 Honda Accord, enables Odyssey owners to connect quickly and easily to a wealth of cloud-based content. The free HondaLink™ smartphone app uses the owner's favorite online content to create live, personalized radio stations, allowing drivers to put away their phones and hear updates and news feeds from Facebook and Twitter, as well as check out restaurant reviews or find the closest coffee shop.

Standard on the 2014 Odyssey Touring Elite®, the all-new HondaVAC™ was developed in conjunction with industry-leader Shop-Vac®, and is composed of a powerful vacuum, replaceable filter and canister bag, with nozzle accessories neatly integrated into a dedicated space on the driver's side bulkhead of the rear cargo area. HondaVAC™ makes quick cleanups a snap no matter the location, offering powerful cleaning suction and an integrated hose and cleaning attachments that reach into every corner of the Odyssey's cabin. The HondaVAC™ system's powerful electric motor never needs an outlet or recharging, can operate continuously when the engine is running, and will continue to operate for up to eight minutes when the vehicle is turned off for additional family duties.

Already one of the most lauded vehicles in its segment, the current 2013 Odyssey has earned IIHS TOP SAFETY PICK and NHTSA 5-Star Overall Vehicle Score crash safety ratings. The Honda Odyssey is an AutoPacific Ideal Vehicle Award winner, an ALG Residual Value award winner, recipient of the Best Family Cars of 2012 designation from both Parents Magazine/Edmunds.com and Kelley Blue Book's kbb.com, and a Best Cars for Families award winner from U.S. News and World Report. The Odyssey represents Honda's robust product development capabilities in North America with its design, engineering and assembly all taking place in the U.S., using domestically and globally sourced parts. Currently, 95 percent of all Hondas sold in the U.S., are built in North America.

Along with the 2014 Odyssey Touring Elite® and Honda's complete lineup of fun-to-drive cars and trucks, the 2014 Accord Plug-In Hybrid and 2013 Fit EV also will be on display at the Honda booth during NYIAS press and public days. The 2014 Accord Plug-In and the fully-electric Honda Fit EV both recently became available in New York.

 

[Thai]

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[hwyix]

I like vans for how practical there and for how much fun there with your kids and their friends.


BUT

I would never buy one because almost all fwd minivans have transmission problems.

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[Thai]

I like vans for how practical there and for how much fun there with your kids and their friends.


BUT

I would never buy one because almost all fwd minivans have transmission problems.

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Odyssey has a history of it. But the Touring model has the new Honda 6 speed tranny. Toyota Sienna does not have any issue with tranny.

 

[SV_Dude]

What is it with the fwd mini-vans and tranny problems? My parents had a dodge caravan when I was a kid and they went through a tranny about every 50-60k miles. It seems like that's an issue with most mini-vans. You would think that by now they would have fixed those issues.

 

[hwyix]

What is it with the fwd mini-vans and tranny problems? My parents had a dodge caravan when I was a kid and they went through a tranny about every 50-60k miles. It seems like that's an issue with most mini-vans. You would think that by now they would have fixed those issues.

Fwd mini-vans started off based on fwd cars. There where never designed for all that weight. Later in life minivan where designed to very tight price point. There is not a whole of profit in a minivan compared to fun awd suv or pickup.


Minivan owners want a lot of toys for there money. Want do you think sells better on the show room floor for a minivan owner dvd/screens or towing capacity. What do you think a monster truck guys is looking for. Towing/power/torque.

 

[hwyix]

If you want a tough van you need to buy rwd from gm & ford. The whites one see running around for your phone company/cable company. Or got to a armature motorcycle even there is always a few guys sporting a full size rwd american as their support vehicle. There big enough to put the bikes in the back
and they still can toy stuff.

They ride like the trucks that there are though and don't have all the cool toys to go with it.

 

[Thai]

What is it with the fwd mini-vans and tranny problems? My parents had a dodge caravan when I was a kid and they went through a tranny about every 50-60k miles. It seems like that's an issue with most mini-vans. You would think that by now they would have fixed those issues.

Most vans? Source?

Well, Dodge sucks. Yeah, their minivans were popular...but that was because the competition was so lacking. (And they were priced cheap compared to Jap counterparts.)

Fwd mini-vans started off based on fwd cars. There where never designed for all that weight. Later in life minivan where designed to very tight price point. There is not a whole of profit in a minivan compared to fun awd suv or pickup.

So, does that mean that Toyota Highlander transmission is a mess also? Both Highlander and Sienna weigh about the same. I would bet that I see about the same tranny issue (Sienna vs. 4runner). Just look at 5th gen forum and see posts of tranny failures. Does that mean anything? No.

Now, Honda transmission have NEVER been great. Issues galore. However, the Touring model of the current Odyssey is from Acura...and is a brand-spanking new design. It is a 6-speed tranny, not the problematic 5-speed. Could it still have issues? Sure, I guess...but I hope not. Acura MDX/ZDX is pretty heavy and uses this new tranny...so, based on hwyix's logic, it should be good to go, right?

Sorry, Toyota Sienna has not been ranked tops by JD Powers and Consumer Reports in reliability and dependability just on reputation....

 

[Thai]

If you want a tough van you need to buy rwd from gm & ford. The whites one see running around for your phone company/cable company. Or got to a armature motorcycle even there is always a few guys sporting a full size rwd american as their support vehicle. There big enough to put the bikes in the back
and they still can toy stuff.

They ride like the trucks that there are though and don't have all the cool toys to go with it.

No thanks. They weigh a lot...drinks tons of gas...ride horribly. My family used to have one of those fullsize vans...tons of issues with them from powertrain to brakes to leaking fluids.

 

[hwyix]

Most vans? Source?

Me. It is common knowledge. You read about all the time.

I used to be a mechanic. blah blah etc....

So, does that mean that Toyota Highlander transmission is a mess also? Both Highlander and Sienna weigh about the same. I would bet that I see about the same tranny issue (Sienna vs. 4runner). Just look at 5th gen forum and see posts of tranny failures. Does that mean anything? No.

Now, Honda transmission have NEVER been great. Issues galore. However, the Touring model of the current Odyssey is from Acura...and is a brand-spanking new design. It is a 6-speed tranny, not the problematic 5-speed. Could it still have issues? Sure, I guess...but I hope not. Acura MDX/ZDX is pretty heavy and uses this new tranny...so, based on hwyix's logic, it should be good to go, right?

Depends on what year you are talking about. For a long time a highlander was nothing more than a lifted camry station wagon. Not much weight added and just seated five.

Sorry, Toyota Sienna has not been ranked tops by JD Powers and Consumer Reports in reliability and dependability just on reputation....

Your using JD powers and consumers as an argument. OMG. haha. Then there is no way I will be able to converse with you on a logical level.


How many years back does a JD powers go. Does it check on car that has 101,000 miles just outside of warranty????????? EVERYBODY can make car last till 100k. You might have squeeks and groans and some things may irate to you but you car will still make it to work. You would be dumb ass to buy a 200k minivan though. I would buy a 200k 4runner/corrola/miata in heart beat and give it my to kid to move away and not give it second though.

 

[Thai]

Me. It is common knowledge. You read about all the time.

I used to be a mechanic. blah blah etc....


How many years back does a JD powers go. Does it check on car that has 101,000 miles just outside of warranty????????? EVERYBODY can make car last till 100k. You might have squeeks and groans and some things may irate to you but you car will still make it to work. You would be dumb ass to buy a 200k minivan though. I would buy a 200k 4runner/corrola/miata in heart beat and give it my to kid to move away and not give it second though.

Well, I assume a mechanic knows how to look up specs..........you might want to look up specs on the Highlander. :tape:

And mechanic of what? I would love to see raw data to support your claims. If no facts or data, then your words are as useful as poop-flavored lollipop.

Unfortunately, there isn't any data out there for 100k mile vehicles. JD Powers goes back at least 3 years on their DEPENDABILITY survey.

I have owned a Corolla...2005. I actually would NOT give it to anyone after 50k miles!

Wait...lets focus on tranny problems here. Are you saying that a Sienna transmission is worst than 4runner's?

 

[hwyix]

Well, I assume a mechanic knows how to look up specs..........you might want to look up specs on the Highlander. :tape:

And mechanic of what? I would love to see raw data to support your claims. If no facts or data, then your words are as useful as poop-flavored lollipop.

Unfortunately, there isn't any data out there for 100k mile vehicles. JD Powers goes back at least 3 years on their DEPENDABILITY survey.

I have owned a Corolla...2005. I actually would NOT give it to anyone after 50k miles!

Wait...lets focus on tranny problems here. Are you saying that a Sienna transmission is worst than 4runner's?

You like data so much, you look it up supporting your claims 1st. Then I will bring mine to the table. I already told I have read it, seen it, worked on it.
You have brought zero to the discussion. Unless you mean JD powers. hahaha.

 

[hwyix]

What kind of problems did you have with 2005 corolla other that it is a boring car????

Even though I know toyota makes the most reliable cars, I still spend my money on things I find more fun.

1994 rx7 bought new
2002 & 2004 wrx bought new
1993 eg6 hatch with gsr motor ( dec 12 )

I know I am in for headaches with those cars. I just like them. I would not give them to my daughter to go to college in another state though.

 

[Thai]

You like data so much, you look it up supporting your claims 1st. Then I will bring mine to the table. I already told I have read it, seen it, worked on it.
You have brought zero to the discussion. Unless you mean JD powers. hahaha.

Wait...you're the one claiming that minivan transmissions are crap. I asked for data to back up YOUR claims. Huh?! Ok, since you claim to have "read it, seen it, etc.", then you should have NO PROBLEMS showing it. What have YOU brought to this discussion?? We all know that Honda's tranny used to be crap...you also claim that Toyota Sienna's tranny is crap also.

Thanks.

 

[Thai]

What kind of problems did you have with 2005 corolla other that it is a boring car????

Rattles, rough idling, nothing major though. But build quality did not indicate that it would last beyond 100k, much less 200k!

 

[hwyix]

corolla == tin can. no fun to drive. they tend to last forever though and have a high resale value.

 

[hwyix]

Wait...you're the one claiming that minivan transmissions are crap. I asked for data to back up YOUR claims. Huh?! Ok, since you claim to have "read it, seen it, etc.", then you should have NO PROBLEMS showing it. What have YOU brought to this discussion?? We all know that Honda's tranny used to be crap...you also claim that Toyota Sienna's tranny is crap also.

Thanks.

ok, at least you know honda's are crap.

in the same thread:

What is it with the fwd mini-vans and tranny problems? My parents had a dodge caravan when I was a kid and they went through a tranny about every 50-60k miles. It seems like that's an issue with most mini-vans. You would think that by now they would have fixed those issues.

What do you do for a living? What is the most common problem you see? Do you have it documented in a nice pie chart that you can PROVE to me that is really the problem? Maybe at your place of work someone takes statics for the rest of us they do not. So, I don't have a pie chart for you. I used to own a auto shop. I made lots of phone calls/deals with a transmission shop. i when to auto school so I have lot of friends who are mechanics that work on different make of cars/trucks/van. I don't know what more to tell you.

How do you base a new car on how reliable it is going to be? Usually it is based on history. Toyota has history of making good cars. Chrysler could come out with car today called "HWYIX" that is ten times more reliable than anything else. Nobody would believe them. That kind of reputation takes 30+ years to earn. This new transmission Honda has in the new minivan might be great. Based on past how honda handle all there other automotic transmission, no thank you.

 

[Thai]

Again, you talk that minivans suck in dependability and reliability, esp. where tranny are involved. Right? I know that Honda sucks in that department. No news there. You have NOT told me anything that I (and most folks here) already know.

My point is that NOT all minivan trannies are bad...and your generalization that they all must be bad because they are heavy is UNFOUNDED...because you simply have not provided any source of data. Of course, a pie chart would be nice...but how about some repair data from anywhere?

I am a rocket scientist who also is a brain surgeon and does auto repair on the side. Do you believe me? This is the net dude. I don't give a rats ass who you claim to be. I don't. Show me proof (any inkling of such would be nice) to back up your claims and I will believe you. If you can't, then your words are worthless IMHO. No offense. But this is the internet.

You like data so much, you look it up supporting your claims 1st. Then I will bring mine to the table. I already told I have read it, seen it, worked on it.

Earlier, you said that you DO have proof...but was waiting for me to show you mine. (Of course, mechanic or not, you did not realize that the burden of proof is actually on you because you are the one that is making the claims!) Well, where is your proof that you claim to have earlier?????? Simple. You claim to have some...now, you back off and hide. Why?

As for the new 6-speed from Honda/Acura...you're right...no one knows since it is too new. However, I hope that it will be good since it will be going into Acura's top end vehicles, such as RLX, new MDX, etc.. And yeah, those vehicles are not lightweights.

AND going with your earlier logic...was Honda tranny bad because of weight?? NO. It was a bad design that Honda did not correct. So, there were issues in lightweight Accords to heavyweights such as MDXs, and Odys. Your "theory" does not hold water. Mechanic or not, your assumption is wrong that weight is the cause of the tranny failures...or that trannies in minivan are weak and could not support the heavier weight.