one of the reasons I'm looking at getting a 4runner is to be able to get/haul a kayak.
Is a 'side carrier' one of those cradles in which the kayak kind of leans at an angle on top of the vehicle?
Thanks
2015 - 2016 4runner questions
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one of the reasons I'm looking at getting a 4runner is to be able to get/haul a kayak.
Is a 'side carrier' one of those cradles in which the kayak kind of leans at an angle on top of the vehicle?
Thanks
radicalwillie
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Though you haven't asked about it, you should be aware that there will be a drop in mileage with the 5th gen. My '06 averaged 21 mpg, my '15 averages 17 mpg. Also, you may be somewhat disappointed in the re-tuning of the V6. It produces more peak horsepower, but it seems to be at a loss of low range torque. Other than those two complaints, I have no regrets about going from a 4th gen to a 5th. Every other aspect is far superior.
marshal
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i meant figuratively, not literally. every aspect of the 5th gen is close to what the 100 series is than what the 4th gen, and especially the hilux based 4runners.
they're not 'more like 150's they actually are 150s
All of the 5th gen trims have the shorter side rails. However, I have found that the Yakima crossbar setup that I used for my 3rd gen fits nicely over the front doors, giving you the extended length you would like. It's not a perfect fit, but works well enough for most applications. I carry a couple of 20+ ft, 20 lb outrigger canoes on top of my T4R using this setup. The only issues I've had with the front crossbar moving is when driving into 40+ mph head/crosswinds at interstate speeds.
Ok, that makes a lot more sense. I was pretty certain that it was a 150 series platform.
mtvp
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The Hideously Ugly front end on the 5th Gen . Is why I'm still driving the 3rd Gen.. Hoping for the 6th Gen to be buyable . That bullhead bottom feeder fish head/ Darth Vader fascia . Really?
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Yes that is exactly it.
mtvp
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I changed it up a little, but the truth still remains. It needs a make over on the front fascia.
SR5 is part time. It used a dial to engage the 4WD versus the manual shift lever of the Trail and early 5th Gen SR5s.
pauldavis
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Aw man, you mean I missed the unedited version?! Bummer I bet that was entertaining. Funny how different our taste can be. I didn't want anything older than a 14 because I wanted me some fish face 4runner. Constant reminder that I shoulld be fishing.
You are correct. I made a mistake. Only the limited trim in the 5th generation so far offers full time 4WD.
Is that a 'bad thing'? AWD, 4wd... isn't needed all the time. Actually, not needed most of the time in the USA.
Am I wrong?
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Interesting. I looked at both Yakima and Thule to find a front clamp on bar fit, to no avail. Hence a Gobi rack is on order to carry my surf skis. Whomever at Toyota designed the half of a rack on the new 4runners wasn't keeping paddlers in mind...
Depends on your usage/perspective. I'm fine with part time. I leave mine in 2WD until I need 4WD (basically when the T/C starts making itself heard). Some people believe they need to be able to leave it in 4WD all the time.
sigepbiker
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I'm in the same boat as OP, except I'm coming from a 2WD 4Runner and looking at the Trails because of the manual Tcase.
1. Does the manual Tcase have 4 gears, i.e.: a Neutral?
2. The Premium was brought up as a package worth every penny. Can anyone elaborate on what is included in that package?
3. KDSS: I've heard of it and know it's the suspension, but don't know it's advantages or disadvantages. Can someone explain? Is it "standard" on any of the Trims or an option on a select few.
Thanks!
1. Does the manual Tcase have 4 gears, i.e.: a Neutral?
2. The Premium was brought up as a package worth every penny. Can anyone elaborate on what is included in that package?
3. KDSS: I've heard of it and know it's the suspension, but don't know it's advantages or disadvantages. Can someone explain? Is it "standard" on any of the Trims or an option on a select few.
Thanks!
Gulfstreamblue
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1. Does the manual Tcase have 4 gears, i.e.: a Neutral?
Yes. 2WD > 4HI > N > 4LO
2. The Premium was brought up as a package worth every penny. Can anyone elaborate on what is included in that package?
Softex Synthetic Leather with heated fronts and Sunroof (maybe a couple other things, but this is the big difference)
3. KDSS: I've heard of it and know it's the suspension, but don't know it's advantages or disadvantages. Can someone explain? Is it "standard" on any of the Trims or an option on a select few.
KDSS is Kinetic Dynamic Suspension and is only offered as an option on Trail models.
Advantages are that it helps reduce body roll around corners. It is also supposed to help with articulation off road.
Disadvantages are that it costs more, decreases ground clearance by approx. 2 inches, makes it a little more complicated to do a lift kit, and has the could be another system to give out in high mileage applications , but from what I've read there has been minimal issues with the system.
Here's a video for KDSS
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