2016 Easter Jeep Safari

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Heading down to Moab this year for the 50th anniversary of the Easter jeep safari. Thought I'd unleash the 4R on them. I've got a 3/2 lift w/ stock 17s tires and sliders. Anyone have any recent experience/suggestions on trails? It's my daily driver so I need to make it back to Colorado! Appreciate It.
 
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Heading down to Moab this year for the 50th anniversary of the Easter jeep safari. Thought I'd unleash the 4R on them. I've got a 3/2 lift w/ stock 17s tires and sliders. Anyone have any recent experience/suggestions on trails? It's my daily driver so I need to make it back to Colorado! Appreciate It.

You will be fine, get help from others if you need a spotter, use bypasses on anything gnarly that you are not comfy with and as [MENTION=49845]marshall[/MENTION] mentioned your lightly modded IFS 4runner is not going to be as capable as a rubicon, both trucks will be fine for most trails in Moab but there will be no "unleashing"
 
Heading down to Moab this year for the 50th anniversary of the Easter jeep safari. Thought I'd unleash the 4R on them. I've got a 3/2 lift w/ stock 17s tires and sliders. Anyone have any recent experience/suggestions on trails? It's my daily driver so I need to make it back to Colorado! Appreciate It.

Am I the only one who thought the "unleash" was tongue and cheek?
 
Stay off anything the RR4W rate harder than a five and you'll be ok.

Assuming you can get anywhere with all the crowds. Moab is nuckin' futs during EJS. Don't even try to get a seat at a restaurant, plan on spending several hours grocery shopping and half an hour in line to get gas.
 
I'm confident the truck will handle many parts of Moab. I'm not concerned with keeping up with any Jeep, that's a whole other conversation. Trail suggestions based on what I'm running and your experience there appreciated though.
 
I'm confident the truck will handle many parts of Moab. I'm not concerned with keeping up with any Jeep, that's a whole other conversation. Trail suggestions based on what I'm running and your experience there appreciated though.

Just don't become the "Toyota Recovery Vehicle" meme :wow:
 
We are squared away on lodging. I did hear Fins is a good one from others. Will check the link. Thanks.

The link was just some pictures from Hell's Revenge in October. The trails are going to be absolutely packed with Jeeps and if you're not registered as a participant, I think the trails are closed when RR4W is leading a run.
 
make sure before you go that you have some way of airing your tires back up on the trail. the 'slick rock' is actually very sticky, but to take full advantage of it you need to be aired down. your stock tires won't help you much but if you're down in the 12-14PSI range you should be able to do everything you want to do within the capabilities of your truck.
 
Did I read this correctly? You are going to Moab for Easter Jeep safari and plan to do it on stock tires.

- Going to moab (good choice)
- During Easter Jeep Safari (not a good choice)
- on stock/street tires (insane)
 
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he should be okay, there isn't a whole lot in moab that could lead to puncture unless he gets into some nasty shit. he'll have to air down a lot to make them worth a damn though
 
he should be okay, there isn't a whole lot in moab that could lead to puncture unless he gets into some nasty shit. he'll have to air down a lot to make them worth a damn though
It might work, but airing them down enough will kill ground clearance and the sidewalls will either tear or he will loose a bead. That is just my guess on what will happen.... Could work out great LOL
 
i mean i totally agree - he needs different tires in a bad way, but he should be able to manage.

getting himself a set of rubicon takeoffs of eBay or craigslist would be the best thing he can do and be extremely more capable for not much money
 
make sure before you go that you have some way of airing your tires back up on the trail. the 'slick rock' is actually very sticky, but to take full advantage of it you need to be aired down. your stock tires won't help you much but if you're down in the 12-14PSI range you should be able to do everything you want to do within the capabilities of your truck.


Thanks. That was going to be one of my questions, a suggestion on air down pressure settings. I do have a gauge and compressor to air back up.
 
Well, I’ll have to agree with all who advise against such a journey but with that said – there are a vast number of trails to be had that require no significant modifications at all. The challenge will be to have friends or others that have more capable vehicles to go with you to the more subdued. There are also a large number of bypass routes around gnarlier obstacles where you can drive around first in line (if you can), then park and watch your friends navigate the obstacles. Actually a great way to view experienced drivers and learn the craft.

I highly recommend Trail Damage… follow this link.

TrailDamage.com - All Trails

This web page will give a great deal of information about the trails as well as (and my favorite function) trail head information and trail mapping which can open up in Google Earth. From Google Earth you can fly the course and actually see where the bypasses are (literally seeing actual depressions and tire marks). You can also see the specific obstacles on each course – from there just pop the obstacle name in You Tube and watch endless videos of where to be (front tire placement, to the right of left of a trail section, where and when Moab Bumps need to be applied) etc. For example you might be able to make it up Poison Spider Mesa (a more difficult trail)… this is an “Iffy” proposition, if you stay to the right on Waterfall and to the left of the step up which occurs further up the hill. Again… iffy. Watch the videos and learn. Don’t watch big modified vehicles do it. I’ve seen some pretty stock units go up right down to a Suzuki Samurai.

Granted – the above recommendations are not a panacea for all things Moab, but it will get you close (about 5% closer)(maybe). I’ll probably get FLAMED for making these recommendations but I figured if you are going to do it… you might as well do some sort of research so you’re not going in flat cold.

Have fun, be safe, don’t bounce, bring extra – well…everything LOL. And when you return you must post the obligatory scars received… I’ll view with envy.
 
It might work, but airing them down enough will kill ground clearance and the sidewalls will either tear or he will loose a bead. That is just my guess on what will happen.... Could work out great LOL

Stock tires are Dunlop AT20 26570/R17. Don't think I will be changing them before March, but if money falls from the sky that could change. I am researching the fitment sticky for options. Suggestions appreciated. I would like to go to an 18" wheel.

I really don't see the problem with these tires (though not ideal for OR), again depending on the trail. I've handled solid 3 rated trails in CO, aired down, no problem. There are plenty of <=3 trails in Moab which is why I was looking for fellow 4R experience on them. Personally, I think even a 4 is doable with the capabilities of the truck as is, depending on conditions of course. Heading down there with the Colorado Jeep People, so I will have some guidance and experience there as well. Thanks for your comments.
 

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