Whippersnapper02
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All it does is open the throttle more aggressively. There's no extra power.
2020 4Runner V6- Feel any faster than the 2014-2019 model?
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All it does is open the throttle more aggressively. There's no extra power.
thennen
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Agreed. I've never owned a Pedal Commander, but as I understand it, all it does is simulate you pushing harder on the accelerator than you really are. Even if you can program different profiles to suit your desires, I can't imagine that I would be $300 happier with one versus stock.
Whippersnapper02
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I have one and it does help the laziness built into the software. I don't pretend that it adds power though.
4RVenture
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Compared to my 2003 V6 the 2020 feels a little more sluggish off the line, mid range on the rpm it feels a little more responsive, passing and such.
One thing that gave a nice little improvement on the butt dyno was cutting the charcoal filter out of the air box and putting in a K&N. I did that on the 2003 too and it definitely helps.
One thing that gave a nice little improvement on the butt dyno was cutting the charcoal filter out of the air box and putting in a K&N. I did that on the 2003 too and it definitely helps.
Twilghtzone
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Just came off a 2017 (wrecked) and got a 2020.
2020 it feels like the transmission shift points have been altered.
Engine ? No extra power... but the cruise control works better.
(Or heck, maybe it was the cruise control that was re-programmed.)
Only way you get power out of that V6 engine is to rev it. (Yup, just like before.)
Need to pass ? Drop down a couple gears and punch it and hold the throttle down.
2020 feels like the new Dunlop tires are better than the older Bridgestones.
Don't know if they are really better off road or in the snow. Maybe find out this winter.
2020 it feels like the transmission shift points have been altered.
Engine ? No extra power... but the cruise control works better.
(Or heck, maybe it was the cruise control that was re-programmed.)
Only way you get power out of that V6 engine is to rev it. (Yup, just like before.)
Need to pass ? Drop down a couple gears and punch it and hold the throttle down.
2020 feels like the new Dunlop tires are better than the older Bridgestones.
Don't know if they are really better off road or in the snow. Maybe find out this winter.
So when you say altered does it feel faster? It does sound like a minor difference after reading through this thread.
Thanks
Whippersnapper02
Senior Member
People also forget the learning function of the transmission control module. A new Runner is still learning.
you want a better overall feel? Stick strictly with 91 octane.. documentation from toyota states the engine will automatically advance timing once sensors detect higher octane fuel and once all the lower octane is flushed out over several tanks.. Since gas has been so affordable and the difference between the 2 octanes are only 20 cents, i've been doing this for several tanks and the driving experience is much improved
83Mule
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The PC alters the trans shift points as a side effect of its action so it kicks down responsively instead of you having to keep pushing deeper and waiting for it to do something. No it doesn't reprogram the shift point, it just ''reads'' the action of the throttle and gives you the feel of a ''normal'' vehicle. I thought it was a gimmick and held out a year.....that was a mistake.
Whippersnapper02
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Please post a link to this.
Have you run into any negatives? I did read a couple of people had issues with odd throttle applications occurring so they removed it to get rid of the issue. It sounds like a really great product.
Islabellefisher
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Agreed
Any link to said documentation?
Redsoxx1918
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I have the Sprint Booster, and you really should try it. It’s simply an after market solution for what many cars offer, stock. My wife’s BMW, for example, offers 3 drive modes...eco, comfort and sport. Each mode changes throttle response and shift points. Obviously, there isn’t any change in power output from the engine but each mode provides a unique driving experience. A huge percentage of cars offer different drive modes which are possible with drive by wire. I’m surprised that so many people haven’t experienced it.
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If factory 0-60 times are 7.5, I'd be interested in hearing what the 0-60 times are with the Pedal Commander. I've been going back and forth on buying one but it seems like there's mixed feelings about them. I realize this isn't a "tune", but just a quicker pedal response mechanism. Just thinking quicker pedal response has to equal faster 0-60 times.
83Mule
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Just figure the time wasted rolling into the throttle and waiting for the trans to react.....that lag is reduced and the feeling is more direct that the throttle is doing what the foot tells it! No power is added but the drivetrain reacts quicker and proportionate to your input........like it always SHOULD have!
hoobhoob
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For a 0-60 run your "pedal" is always maxed out, physically, so Pedal Commander can't "map it" any higher. The only difference is perhaps about 50ms improvement on the time it takes you to mash the pedal in initially.
thennen
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I’m sure Sprint Booster, Pedal Commander, etc. result in improved driving experiences For some people under certain circumstances. But it has to be important to you before you consider it worthwhile. A different throttle response from stock just isn’t important to me.
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