2023 Toyota Sequoia

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Sequoia IMO is now better than the Land Cruiser. I'm a bit shocked. But they dropped the IRS and went put a solid rear axle back in! Ridgewood is going to have a conniption.

And it had a locking diff option too. Plus it's offered as a hybrid that the LC still doesn't have and will have around 3" more suspension travel than the lc300 (basically it's a +2 long travel vs the LC). It has a higher trim interior too. It now is really just a bigger badder LC300. I like it. Home run in my book.
 
I want to see the interior in person. The photos look like the typical Toyota cheap plastic interior to me.
 
New tundra interior is really nice in the higher trims. Interior is quieter than the lx570 - by a pretty big margin. 6-7db. I think capstone will be on par with the LX. And I bet the price tag will be too! Outgoing Sequoia is $70k in platinum trim. New one with hybrid std will probably be $85k for platinum and 90-100k for capstone. That'll put it $10-12k more expensive than a base lx600. So having a equivalent interior build shouldn't be too much surprise.

I think the Land Cruiser might have just been knocked off the top of the hill...

What I want to know is how the hell does Toyota not have mpg figures yet!?! Even for the tundra hybrid that's supposedly available in a little over a month. (Or why are they hiding them?)
 
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Toyota's vision is starting to become clear with the decision to stop selling the Landcruiser in the US. The Landcruiser was too expensive, and upgrading the Sequoia could make it very capable and able to fill it's spot as well as the Landcruiser in the lineup.

I've really enjoyed my 4Runner, and like that there is now an option for my growing family in the next size up. Would love a Prime version.
 
Jayhawk5G said:
Toyota's vision is starting to become clear with the decision to stop selling the Landcruiser in the US. The Landcruiser was too expensive, and upgrading the Sequoia could make it very capable and able to fill it's spot as well as the Landcruiser in the lineup.

I've really enjoyed my 4Runner, and like that there is now an option for my growing family in the next size up. Would love a Prime version.
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we enjoy the 4runner as well and we will probably keep another 5 years or so. Bought it new in 2017 and it has about 55k miles on it. Next suv will probably be the sequioa or a yukon with diesel engine. Mainly a large family size suv for long trips and sports. Sequoia does look nice, will like to see all the trim levels
 
How much of this design do you think will be incorporated into the 4runner? Will it just be a mini version of the new Sequoia or will it be its own design?
 
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Part-time 4wd. Enough said. :(
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I don't think aisin has an AWD transfer that can handle the hybrid torque. And the Borg Warner TOD that everyone uses doesn't have a mechanical lock and the clutches can't handle heavy off-road use or even tasks like snow plowing. It's only really built for intermittent engagement. So I don't think there's a transfer case that's AWD that is functional for the 600ft/lbs. I can't think of any anyway. Maybe there's something out there I'm not thinking of?

That's my guess anyway. And that would make sense why there's no hybrid LC300. Maybe it's on its way?

Plus side is there's likely to be a lot of used lc200s getting traded on these, so the market will probably come back down a bunch by next year.
 
Jayhawk5G said:
Toyota's vision is starting to become clear with the decision to stop selling the Landcruiser in the US. The Landcruiser was too expensive, and upgrading the Sequoia could make it very capable and able to fill it's spot as well as the Landcruiser in the lineup.

I've really enjoyed my 4Runner, and like that there is now an option for my growing family in the next size up. Would love a Prime version.
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I'm in very much the same boat. With two little people and a dog the 4r is not big enough anymore. Not if I want to take some camping gear or tow anything. Land cruiser isn't any bigger so it helps with towing, but has less cargo space. Was going to buy a tundra. But this caught me by surprise. I'm really interested. It's exactly what I want. Depending on price and mpg. And - yeah, a prime model is really what I'd want. They need to make it happen.
 
Jetboy said:
I don't think aisin has an AWD transfer that can handle the hybrid torque. And the Borg Warner TOD that everyone uses doesn't have a mechanical lock and the clutches can't handle heavy off-road use or even tasks like snow plowing. It's only really built for intermittent engagement. So I don't think there's a transfer case that's AWD that is functional for the 600ft/lbs. I can't think of any anyway. Maybe there's something out there I'm not thinking of?

That's my guess anyway. And that would make sense why there's no hybrid LC300. Maybe it's on its way?

Plus side is there's likely to be a lot of used lc200s getting traded on these, so the market will probably come back down a bunch by next year.
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Good point. I prefer traction/safety over power any day of week if I had choice.
 
I'm curious if the hybrid Sequoia has the 10.5 or 9.5 rear axle. I've always assumed the Land Cruiser could use the 9.5 because of the AWD sharing the load between the axles and the tundra had the bigger rear axle because it was the full load axle most of the time. And it was expected to tow and haul more frequently.

Now the 9.5 is determined to be enough for the ttv6 but not enough for the hybrid. Does that apply to the Sequoia too? And if not - why? Or alternatively why does the hybrid tundra with lower towing capacity end up with the 10.5 axle.

For some reason I'm guessing Sequoia gets the small axle. But it probably should have the big one?

Also - I bet the Sequoia looks great on 37s! Can't wait to see it with a mild lift and tires.
 
Like most everything about it EXCEPT complexity of the twin turbo engine and associated cooling, intake system, etc. Much too complex for me and of course I could'nt come close to affording one anyway. The wheels are junk, need an upgrade there, 17" or 18" with more aggressive tires.
 
Jayhawk5G said:
Toyota's vision is starting to become clear with the decision to stop selling the Landcruiser in the US. The Landcruiser was too expensive, and upgrading the Sequoia could make it very capable and able to fill it's spot as well as the Landcruiser in the lineup.

I've really enjoyed my 4Runner, and like that there is now an option for my growing family in the next size up. Would love a Prime version.
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Jetboy said:
I'm in very much the same boat. With two little people and a dog the 4r is not big enough anymore. Not if I want to take some camping gear or tow anything. Land cruiser isn't any bigger so it helps with towing, but has less cargo space. Was going to buy a tundra. But this caught me by surprise. I'm really interested. It's exactly what I want. Depending on price and mpg. And - yeah, a prime model is really what I'd want. They need to make it happen.
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I’m also on this wagon. Kids getting bigger, comfortable road trip vehicle that can tow but still get off the beaten path. My 4Runner will turn 10 in 2025. That will give Toyota a couple years to work any kinks out and for some aftermarket support to catch up…might even have the Prime version by then. Squirreling my $ away now.
 
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