2nd gen Tacoma steel wheels with 3rd gen lugs?

[thezentree]

Stupid question - is it safe to use these:

with these:

I bought a set of 2nd gen Tacoma OEM steel wheels with 245s, but they did not come with lug nuts. I put them on and torqued the crap out of them, but since it's only the bevel end of the lug nuts instead of the flange/captured washer that's clamping the wheels, when I torqued them they felt like the lugs were deforming the lug holes in the wheels before the lug nut really tightened up.

I've not had steel wheels before (always had alloy OEM wheels), but it made me hesitate to run these wheels like that.

 

[85straight]

No not safe to use those style lugs on those wheels. Some may say it’s ok, but I disagree. You may be ok for a period of time but I wouldnt risk it.
You need acorn style lugs for those steel wheels. Any tire shop will probably have some in stock and be able to verify all of this for you

 

[dustxking]

Those toyota lugs you pictured above might be a little fat for those steel wheels to fit the cap.
I disagree with poster above because the toyota OEM lugs do have a small acorn taper on the end of them so they can be ran with steel wheels.
Torque the crap, isn't a correct torque either, you need to torque those between 80-90 foot pounds.

 

[85straight]

I disagree with poster above because the toyota OEM lugs do have a small acorn taper on the end of them so they can be ran with steel wheels.

Here lies the problem , the proper acorn has a much larger taper on the end of it because repeated torquing of a steel wheel actually expands the steel.

Here’s an idea OP go to your nearest dealer or tire shop and ask them, they should have the final say so.

But then again I only worked at a tire shop for almost a decade so...:tape2:

 

[dustxking]

Here lies the problem , the proper acorn has a much larger taper on the end of it because repeated torquing of a steel wheel actually expands the steel.

Here’s an idea OP go to your nearest dealer or tire shop and ask them, they should have the final say so.

But then again I only worked at a tire shop for almost a decade so...:tape2:

If the wheel is torqued to the proper torque then expanding of the steel shouldn't be any more then what the factory OEM lug nut allows. Ive seen it done all the time. Of course I too agree to get the proper lug nuts, but if you have to run these for a period of time, you are totally fine.I too have been working and still do manage a tire store for over 10 years. So again what do I know :boxing:

 

[85straight]

I like your style....
But you said yourself, to get the proper lugs.
They should cost all but $25 right?
Besides the wrong lugs would looks silly as hell on a steel wheel

 

[thezentree]

I like your style....
But you said yourself, to get the proper lugs.
They should cost all but $25 right?
Besides the wrong lugs would looks silly as hell on a steel wheel

Can confirm, looks goofy as hell (and kinda ricey with the blue anodized boss of the Spidertrax wheel spacers sticking through the middle).

I'll go get a set of the right lug nuts for these. Thanks y'all.

 

[Lamer]

Stupid question - is it safe to use these:

with these:

did you ever get these installed? i'm curious what they look like on your 4runner

 

[thezentree]

did you ever get these installed? i'm curious what they look like on your 4runner

Yeah, but I was only running them and the 245s that were on them to rule out wheels and tires as the cause of highway speed vibrations I've not been able to solve since August of last year (wasn't wheels and tires, for the record).

I think I put 20 miles on them and sold them on craigslist and I don't think I ever took any pics of them on the 4Runner.

They didn't look bad, but I know that's not particularly helpful for you haha.