36K miles a year

[umidkusername]

Any thoughts on the wear and tear of 2020 TRD Pro doing 36k miles a year, 90% highway? I ask because with the upgraded suspension that’s really for off road will this many miles really do a number on the 4runner?

I’m not sure if my vehicle is made for this sort of driving.

Will have regular maintenance, every 5-10k miles. Had oil changed twice so far at around 12k miles.


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[tm965]

Any thoughts on the wear and tear of 2020 TRD Pro doing 36k miles a year, 90% highway? I ask because with the upgraded suspension that’s really for off road will this many miles really do a number on the 4runner?

I’m not sure if my vehicle is made for this sort of driving.

Will have regular maintenance, every 5-10k miles. Had oil changed twice so far at around 12k miles.


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should be fine but id expect a shock rebuild (if possible on the stock foxes) after year two prob

 

[umidkusername]

should be fine but id expect a shock rebuild (if possible on the stock foxes) after year two prob

What should I look for to know it’s time for that?


When I move to where I work I’ll be lucky to get 10k a year unless I do long trips. But if I start doing a lot of off roading the suspension will be used more and I should probably know what to look for.


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[tm965]

What should I look for to know it’s time for that?


When I move to where I work I’ll be lucky to get 10k a year unless I do long trips. But if I start doing a lot of off roading the suspension will be used more and I should probably know what to look for.


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leaks, excessive body roll, bounciness... you'll know

 

[CO-Cygnus]

Oh my god the gas bills.

 

[umidkusername]

Oh my god the gas bills.

240 a month. If that breaks the bank probably shouldn’t own a SUV.


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[JLTD]

Driving is driving, whether done in 2 years or 20. Keep up with the maintenance schedule and you should be good. One exception from experience:

With that driving style you are an excellent candidate for extended engine oil changes; and our 4 liters are easy on oil. You may want to try an upper tier oil designed for extended life, like Amsoil Signature, Schaeffer 9000, or Mobil1 EP. For the price of a couple of UOAs (used oil analysis) you could likely extend your oil changes out, maybe even yearly depending on results.

I just ran Amsoil 10000 miles for one year of mostly local trips and the report indicated it could have gone a lot further. Using an Amsoil filter which is good for 25000 miles. Doing a second run of Amsoil now and will take it further, probably up to 15,000 miles. I will be running Schaeffer next to compare.

 

[thennen]

I know it's way different, but I drove my then-brand-new 1988 4Runner the same amount per year. Didn't bother the truck at all. In fact, I started it on average 10-15 times a day, and when I got rid of it at 305k miles, the starter still worked fine. So don't fret too much - these things like to be driven.

 

[GX4SEVEND]

240 a month. If that breaks the bank probably shouldn’t own a SUV.


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3000 miles a month is only $240 in gas? Damn I wish mine was that. I’m 15mpg and would be lucky to see 300 miles to a tank. That’s 10 fill ups for me at $50 each so $500 total. New ones must get way better mileage


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[cb1111]

Driving is driving, whether done in 2 years or 20. Keep up with the maintenance schedule and you should be good. One exception from experience:

With that driving style you are an excellent candidate for extended engine oil changes; and our 4 liters are easy on oil. You may want to try an upper tier oil designed for extended life, like Amsoil Signature, Schaeffer 9000, or Mobil1 EP. For the price of a couple of UOAs (used oil analysis) you could likely extend your oil changes out, maybe even yearly depending on results.

I just ran Amsoil 10000 miles for one year of mostly local trips and the report indicated it could have gone a lot further. Using an Amsoil filter which is good for 25000 miles. Doing a second run of Amsoil now and will take it further, probably up to 15,000 miles. I will be running Schaeffer next to compare.

That's not true at all.

Putting 36k miles on a car in a year is far better than putting 3k miles on a car for 12 years.

In addition, I'd be very careful using unapproved boutique oils in the car.

36k a year is nothing.

 

[Jivewalker]

203,000 in 8 years mixed driving with some mild off roading for fishing. Probably 10-15k of that was vacation road trips. 19mpg consistent.

3rd set of tires on it now, getting 60-70k per set
3rd set of brake pads on it, all had meat left when changed every time
put new shocks on at 140k, one was leaking, went with OEM Tokico's
front wheel bearings once, I drive through a good bit of water
Did rotors at first brake pad change at 100k for the hell of it since pads were so old. Probably didn't need, but safety.
Replaced sway bar bushings around 150k for a clunk noise
Oh, and I do 5kOCI's with Toyota oil, but have used mobil one for a little while, tried several others, like Toyota best.

 

[peekaboo]

should be fine but id expect a shock rebuild (if possible on the stock foxes) after year two prob

I do not believe these Fox shocks are designed to be rebuilt.

OP, I'd almost buy a set of shocks for your current driving habits and put the Fox ones back on when it changes.

 

[thennen]

3000 miles a month is only $240 in gas? Damn I wish mine was that. I’m 15mpg and would be lucky to see 300 miles to a tank. That’s 10 fill ups for me at $50 each so $500 total. New ones must get way better mileage


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It’s not so much new vs older, but stock vs modded. Yours is lifted with bigger tires, right? That does a number on the MPGs. Mine is stock and I routinely am around 22mpg, and 400+ miles per tank.

 

[NW.OH.T4R]

It’s not so much new vs older, but stock vs modded. Yours is lifted with bigger tires, right? That does a number on the MPGs. Mine is stock and I routinely am around 22mpg, and 400+ miles per tank.

This isn’t an mpg thread, but my Pro is 16.4 over 10k miles, hand calculated. Only mods are TRD CAI and exhaust, and aluminum sliders, with conservative driving.


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[JLTD]

That's not true at all.

Putting 36k miles on a car in a year is far better than putting 3k miles on a car for 12 years.

In addition, I'd be very careful using unapproved boutique oils in the car.

36k a year is nothing.

I agree with you that highway miles are the easiest on a vehicle and 36k/1 year is easier than 3k for each of 12 years.

But I am wondering what your foundation is for being "very careful using unapproved boutique oils". Are you saying that an oil from a company other than some large company with a huge advertising budget isn't good enough? If not, what exactly are you saying?

I mean, Toyota's owners manual for the 2020 4Runner says:

■ Engine oil selection
“Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” is used in your Toyota vehicle. Use
Toyota approved “Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” or equivalent to satisfy the following grade and viscosity.
Oil grade: ILSAC GF-5 multigrade engine oil
Recommended viscosity: SAE 0W-20

It doesn't say anything about "approved oils", other than that it should satisfy the ILSAC GF-5 multigrade requirements. Also note that 0w-20 is recommended rather than required. In other parts of the world, our 4.0 V6 engines are specified to use viscosities up to 20w50.

 

[Darrow]

Of course a 4Runner can take 36k miles per year. You can also chop down a tree with a butter knife if you're so inclined.

I love my 4Runner but I can think of a lot of other vehicles I'd rather spend 100 highway miles per day in.

 

[umidkusername]

I do not believe these Fox shocks are designed to be rebuilt.

OP, I'd almost buy a set of shocks for your current driving habits and put the Fox ones back on when it changes.

Any recommendation?


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[NW.OH.T4R]

I agree with you that highway miles are the easiest on a vehicle and 36k/1 year is easier than 3k for each of 12 years.

But I am wondering what your foundation is for being "very careful using unapproved boutique oils". Are you saying that an oil from a company other than some large company with a huge advertising budget isn't good enough? If not, what exactly are you saying?

I mean, Toyota's owners manual for the 2020 4Runner says:



It doesn't say anything about "approved oils", other than that it should satisfy the ILSAC GF-5 multigrade requirements. Also note that 0w-20 is recommended rather than required. In other parts of the world, our 4.0 V6 engines are specified to use viscosities up to 20w50.

Instead of feeding this troll, just ask him how many miles he drives his 4Runner... spoiler it's 0

 

[00Sebby]

Any thoughts on the wear and tear of 2020 TRD Pro doing 36k miles a year, 90% highway? I ask because with the upgraded suspension that’s really for off road will this many miles really do a number on the 4runner?

I’m not sure if my vehicle is made for this sort of driving.

Will have regular maintenance, every 5-10k miles. Had oil changed twice so far at around 12k miles.


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There's a common misperception that modern off-road trimmed vehicles (TRD Pro, Wrangler Rubicon, Ford Raptors, etc.) are made "for off road" more than on the road. Yes, they all have off-road capable suspensions, can be driven more places off road, etc. but the manufacturers' number one priority is to provide a road-worthy and highway-safe & capable vehicle, with the added off-road capabilities a secondary priority. As we all know, most buyers will never take these things on anything more than a gravel road. A TRD Pro has a lift and some nice shocks but those things in no way reduces its highway expectations... and compared to the other trims, may even make it a better highway vehicle. Sure, the struts/shocks may have to be rebuilt at some point based on their design but the Pro is still 98% the same as any other 4Runner.

Summary, drive it and don't worry. I had a '12 JK Rubicon. Everyone on the Jeep forums try to convince themselves a Rubicon is so off-road capable that there is no way it should be driven long distance I put about 35k miles a year on mine. Drove it all over the country for work projects. It did great on the highway, only needing oil changes and tire rotations.

 

[kenwilliams0803]

There's a common misperception that modern off-road trimmed vehicles (TRD Pro, Wrangler Rubicon, Ford Raptors, etc.) are made "for off road" more than on the road. Yes, they all have off-road capable suspensions, can be driven more places off road, etc. but the manufacturers' number one priority is to provide a road-worthy and highway-safe & capable vehicle, with the added off-road capabilities a secondary priority. As we all know, most buyers will never take these things on anything more than a gravel road. A TRD Pro has a lift and some nice shocks but those things in no way reduces its highway expectations... and compared to the other trims, may even make it a better highway vehicle. Sure, the struts/shocks may have to be rebuilt at some point based on their design but the Pro is still 98% the same as any other 4Runner.

Summary, drive it and don't worry. I had a '12 JK Rubicon. Everyone on the Jeep forums try to convince themselves a Rubicon is so off-road capable that there is no way it should be driven long distance I put about 35k miles a year on mine. Drove it all over the country for work projects. It did great on the highway, only needing oil changes and tire rotations.

Depends if that Rubicon is on 37's with no doors and no top. Mine doesn't go long distance.

But that's largely because I also have a T4R in the driveway to use for that duty instead. If this had been a "normal" year, the T4R would have seen 30k.