3rd Gen 4runner External Tranny Cooler Install w/ Radiator and Thermostat Replacement

mtbtim

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Hey Dudes and Dudettes, I installed a B&M 70264 transmission cooler to my rig this past weekend. I also installed a new radiator and thermostat in the process. I ran the cooler in-series with the stock cooler in the radiator as opposed to bypassing the cooler in the radiator and having a stand-alone external cooler.

The video I made is pretty long because I didn't use [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] great video editing skills and I have diarrhea of the mouth at times but I think you'll find this video very informative if this is something you've been thinking about doing.

So, sit back and enjoy some Toyota Time with Timmy the Toolman!

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A subscriber to my YouTube channel let me know I technically ran my lines to the cooler incorrectly. Since I installed my cooler fittings to the side, the bottom fitting should be the inlet and the upper fitting should be the outlet. I ran the inlet to the top fitting and the outlet to the bottom fitting.

Here's a quote from the B&M Instruction sheet that I missed:
"When mounting the cooler with the fittings on the right or left side, the lower fitting must be the inlet with the top fitting routing the fluid back to the transmission."

The directions do say that when mounting sideways, the inlet should be at the bottom and the outlet on the top because supposedly air can get trapped in the cooler. But, the transmission fluid is pressurized by a positive displacement pump so I would think it wouldn't make any difference if the inlet was on the top or bottom in a sideways mounting installation.

I read a post on a forum where a guy said he called B&M and talked with one of their engineers and said it didn't matter which way you mounted it and which was the inlet or outlet.

Here's what the guy said and it makes sense:

"B&M coolers are made by LONG Mfg. which also makes Tru-Cool stacked plate coolers. Per the FAQ at the True-Cool web site, the stacked plate cooler inlet/outlet can be mounted up, down, sideways....makes no difference.

We installed a B&M #70264 cooler and I called B&M about the inlet/oulet mount direction......the B&M engineer said disregard the instructions that came with the cooler and mount however I wanted....up/down/sideways."

This was another comment by the same guy responding to another members post on the same thread:

"That's why I contacted B&M by phone and was told by one of their engineers that the mounting direction did not matter since the tranny fluid is pressurized by a positive displacement pump and any air would quickly be pushed thru the system as soon as the motor was started."

Here's the link to the Tru Cool website FAQ and they do say it can be mounted anyway you want, even upside down.
Frequently Asked Questions | Tru-Cool

I find it interesting how one company, B&M, can say you should absolutely not install the cooler with the fittings pointing down and then another company, Tru Cool, says you can mount it in any fashion you want and also says nothing of how you should run the inlet and outlet if you mount it sideways. And, both companies sell the same exact coolers. NO difference.

I called B&M myself and the person I talked to did specify in a sideways installation, the lower fitting should be the inlet so the cooler can fill from the bottom and push out any trap air.

I talked with a person at the company that sells Tru Cool coolers and after he talked with one of the engineers. They discussed the way I set mine up and feel since I'm running a small cooler and I've experienced temperature drops, the cooler is working properly and any trapped air in the cooler is probably minimal. I drove a 7 mile mountain road for the 3rd time the other day that I've used as a test for this modification, and I again registered around a 20 degrees temperature reduction ( I reached around 195 degrees at the top of the hill). When I first drove the hill without the external cooler, I hit a little over 220 degrees. The next time I drove it with the new external cooler installed, I cracked 200 degrees by the top of the hill.

I scoured many forums and websites and I read some that say you absolutely can't run a stacked plate cooler upside down (worst orientation supposedly) and others that say it's not a big deal if a little air is getting trapped at the top of the cooler, while others say the pressure from the fluid will push any air out. It was interesting to see pictures of vehicles with OEM coolers from the manufacturer and the cooler was installed upside down. Some people who installed aftermarket coolers upside down said they've been running it like that for years and it's working great. And then another guy said he used a thermal reading tool and saw that the upper part of his cooler had a much lower temperature reading meaning the ATF fluid was making it up there due to trapped air because he had the cooler fittings facing downward. Once he flipped it around, the cooler completely filled with fluid and it worked better.

I guess to play it safe, you either want to mount the cooler with both fillings facing up, or to the side, left or right. If to the side, just use the lower fitting as the inlet of the hot fluid and the upper fitting as the outlet for the cooled fluid returning to the transmission.
 
I’ve mounted them with both fittings down in the past on other rigs and never blew anything up.

At least now everyone following along knows Longs makes the coolers for BM.

I put the Long 4589 on the Limited and for everyday street driving my oil pan temp on a hot summer day was 130f.


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Year ago my friends were building a GM 4l60e tranny and decided to use a Hayden cooler to manage temps. Using a transmission pressure gauge, the only difference in pressure caused by the cooler that we saw was when it was mounted upside down, but the increase was at the most three psi or so.

I am now using the 70264’s big brother, the 70266, on my 4runner. Very happy with it.
 
I know this is an older thread, but I wish one of the guys here like [MENTION=636945]Spiker Engineering[/MENTION] or the like would design and fab a bracket that cleanly mounts the cooler on the radiator support. I don't think I've ever been happy with the straps I used to mount mine.
 
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I know this is an older thread, but I wish one of the guys here like [MENTION=636945]Spiker Engineering[/MENTION] or the like would design and fab a bracket that cleanly mounts the cooler on the radiator support. I don't think I've ever been happy with the straps I used to mount mine.

How much would you be willing to pay for those brackets? And what cooler did you use?

I am going to be adding a cooler soon, and my buddy is going to help me fab something. I can easily make a 2nd one and have it sent my other fab buddy for cutting out on the waterjet.
 
I know this is an older thread, but I wish one of the guys here like [MENTION=636945]Spiker Engineering[/MENTION] or the like would design and fab a bracket that cleanly mounts the cooler on the radiator support. I don't think I've ever been happy with the straps I used to mount mine.

It'd be easy to come up with something, the problem is that the brackets may need to be different for the different coolers that people use. To make the cost affordable, we'd have to make them in reasonably large quantities.

But it's an interesting thought :).
 
I know this is an older thread, but I wish one of the guys here like [MENTION=636945]Spiker Engineering[/MENTION] or the like would design and fab a bracket that cleanly mounts the cooler on the radiator support. I don't think I've ever been happy with the straps I used to mount mine.

IMHO the easiest and also the cleanest, most secure way to mount the coolers is to simply zip tie directly to the A/C condenser.

With these: Transmission cooler mounting kit

I've always used this method. As long as you only tie through the A/C condenser, it doesn't get in the way of removing the radiator. Having the cooler mounted reasonably close to the A/C condenser provides the most efficient air flow too.
 
IMHO the easiest and also the cleanest, most secure way to mount the coolers is to simply zip tie directly to the A/C condenser.

With these: Transmission cooler mounting kit

I've always used this method. As long as you only tie through the A/C condenser, it doesn't get in the way of removing the radiator. Having the cooler mounted reasonably close to the A/C condenser provides the most efficient air flow too.

I thought that at first, but changed my mind about the zip ties and went to using the straps to mount it. I was using the zip ties on my 98 4runner for quite some time which involved many wheeling trips over washboard fire roads. What I found is even though I had those zip ties as tight as I could get them, they had noticeably loosened up and were causing excessive damage to the cooling fins of the AC condenser. If I didn't catch it quick enough, it probably would have eventually caused a leak in the cooling channels and then I'd be replacing an expensive condenser.
 
It'd be easy to come up with something, the problem is that the brackets may need to be different for the different coolers that people use. To make the cost affordable, we'd have to make them in reasonably large quantities.

But it's an interesting thought :).

I went with the B&M 70268 SuperCooler which seems like a pretty popular choice around here. I just get jealous of people with Silverados that have those brackets that mount one up front and center so cleanly.
 

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