3rd Gen vs 2nd Gen?

An argument for the 2nd gen 4Runner

Assuming this thread is referring to fully stock vehicles...

When I threw a Supercharged, 7th injected JDM 3.4, with a new A340f and gear-driven T-case into my 2nd gen, I was doing 0-60mph in about 6.5 seconds. I never had the chance to throw a locker in it, as some stupid woman rear ended me and totaled my truck 2 days after I finished the conversion (still feeling extremely butt hurt about it) but I'll say that with some basic modifications, the 2nd gen body is indeed a better "bush truck", as somebody mentioned earlier.

All in all, it's a relatively silly debate, because yes, the 3rd gen is a "better truck" overall (primarily because of the 3.4). Also, the 1st gens are more "legendary", as they trike that strong emotional collector's cord in so many people, and yes, they are nimble as hell. Although they lack insulation and sound proofing, are prone to leaking around the removable top, and they're cold as hell to sleep in if you're in the mountains.

So if the First Gen is more Legendary, and the Third gen is overall just better, where does that leave our sad and neglected Second Gen 4Runners? My opinion would be simply this: They are ICONIC.

The 2nd generation 4Runner is the foundation by which all current 4Runners now exist.

Despite the relatively pathetic performance, and lackluster reliability of the 3VZ-E, keep in mind that those engines were revolutionary for their time. Electronic fuel injection was still getting refined, and Toyota was on the cutting edge. Toyota learned a ton with that engine design, and it's electronic control system was fundamentally copied by other manufacturers, such as Nissan for the late 90's Pathfinders.

Personally, I was born in the 80's and was a kid in the 90's, and so the 2nd gen Toyota 4x4's left a huge imprint on me. I'll always have a fetish for that specific design of truck... It just has a certain "feel". To me, the 3rd gens just feel fundamentally too civilized, squishy and plush. And yet the 1st gens don't have enough creature comforts... I feel that the 2nd gen 4Runner (when it's in good shape) has a ton to offer in terms of user interface, but it still has a fundamentally "rugged" mountain truck feel to it. It's also a TREMENDOUS platform to build on. Even with the stock IFS, add a rear locker, and you'll basically go anywhere. Then spend a bit more money and add a Supercharged 5VZ-FE, and you're basically driving a vintage collectors item that has as much power and torque, and raw acceleration as any modern day SUV.

As soon as I can, I'd like to rebuild my project... Here's hoping the damn woman's insurance plays ball!
 
My 94had the 3.0. After I put Thorley headers, multi hole injectors, open element air filter and did the EGR delete, it ran plenty strong. We often get caught up in how fast something is. That motor moved the 94 along just fine and it would run 75-80 on the highway.

The refinement of the suspension on the 3rd gen is what made me sell that truck and move up. Only that, my newborn son wasn't happy with the on road performance lol.
 
Which one?

Hey guys new to the 4Runner world and I need some advice.

Would you rather buy a 2nd gen that’s basically stock and had the head gaskets done already with 200k miles or a 3rd gen with 250k miles? Both rigs have minimal rust and the 3rd gen has a slight lift and 33s. Both are auto and 4wd as well
 
Hey guys new to the 4Runner world and I need some advice.

Would you rather buy a 2nd gen that’s basically stock and had the head gaskets done already with 200k miles or a 3rd gen with 250k miles? Both rigs have minimal rust and the 3rd gen has a slight lift and 33s. Both are auto and 4wd as well

3rd gem.
 
Hey guys new to the 4Runner world and I need some advice.

Would you rather buy a 2nd gen that’s basically stock and had the head gaskets done already with 200k miles or a 3rd gen with 250k miles? Both rigs have minimal rust and the 3rd gen has a slight lift and 33s. Both are auto and 4wd as well

I might be biased because I own a 3rd gen but I'd take the 3rd gen. 2nd gens don't really have the aftermarket support that the 3rds do, and theres a lot more information available for them also.

I was tasked with making the decision between 2nd and 3rd when I got mine and I'm much happier with my 98.
 
Hey guys new to the 4Runner world and I need some advice.

Would you rather buy a 2nd gen that’s basically stock and had the head gaskets done already with 200k miles or a 3rd gen with 250k miles? Both rigs have minimal rust and the 3rd gen has a slight lift and 33s. Both are auto and 4wd as well

If the 3rd gen has a factory locker I would definitely go with that. 250k means it's just broken in (assuming good maintenance of course). I would ask the owner when timing belt and water pump were done last. Also get a jack under the LCAs and check the condition of those lower ball joints with a pry bar. If those two are good you got a big leg up on any future maintenance that needs to be done. Compression test wouldn't hurt either. Already has offroad upgrades is a big bonus, assuming it's not just some cheap spacer lift to make a mall crawler.
 
Only considering external factors would be enough to go for a 3rd gen over a 2nd

I'd go with a 3rd gen. I would of bought a 2nd generation if it weren't for 4 things:
1. The 2nd generation is a huge step down in safety. There aren't any airbags or side impact protection (it got a one star by NHTSA)

2. The 3.0 is worse in every way to the 3.4. Fuel efficiency is worse, power is worse, and even the reliability is worse. You could go either way with the 3rz or 22RE. The 3rz has more power, but the 22RE is slightly easier to maintain.

3. Parts for 2nd generation 4runners have long been unavailable. This is starting to be a bigger problem with 3rd gens, but nothing like 2nd gens.

4. 1st and 2nd generation 4runners always have dead forums, while the 3rd and 5th generations have the most activity on the forums. You wont get as much help when you have an issue with a 2nd generation as you would with a 3rd gen. 2nd gens are at the point where few people daily them, so there aren't as many active users.

I came very close to buying a 2nd generation. Overlooking the engine and safety, I like them equally, and prefer some things about the 2nd gen (better gauges and tailgate). But the external factors alone would make me recommend buying a 3rd gen over a 2nd.

This recommendation is assuming that the two are in similar condition and have similar options. Obviously maintenance, price and condition would be enough to sway my recommendation.
 
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