3RZ Alpine/TRD Supercharger!

ChildrenOfBodom

ChildrenOfBodom

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SCRunner12 sent me a guys information today, one who had a 2.7 Alpine TRD S/C. I've spoken to the owner and have devised a payment plan. I just have some last minute questions.

He is the original owner of this unit and purchased it new from Toyota. It was installed on his 1998 4Runner and has approx. 50k miles on it. He says it works fine, with no issues. He removed it because he's selling the 4Runner and wanted to return the 4Runner to stock.

It has 50,000 miles on it, it comes with 3 pulleys (2.6, 2.5, and 2.4), 2 belts, and Dynamic tensioner.

My questions for you are:

1. The S/C has an 8 port intake manifold as shown here:

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I drive a 1999 4Runner and I believe mine is a 4 port if not mistaken. Is there a way I can still run this unit?

2. The asking price is $1,400 plus $80 shipping. Is this fair?

3. Would I have to worry about CEL's with this unit and the 2.6" 4 psi pulley? I plan to run fuel management for a 2.4" pulley, but in the meantime, I'll run this.

Thanks for all your expertise.

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Regarding all of your questions.... I have no clue!

BUT... I sure hope this works out for you! This would make for a very unique powertrain setup that I would love to see you put together. :snacker:
 
My answers for you (for what they're worth):
1) 1995-1999 3RZs are 8 Port, 2000-2004 are 4 port.
Is yours a late '99 perhaps? You can get a 4 port manifold if needed.

2) $1500 - $2000 seems common for a used kit. However if WYSISYG in the pictures, then you're missing a bunch of parts!

3) I hope that the CEL doesn't start coming on :eek: after install.

I don't know a whole lot about the SC for 4Runners. My experience comes from having a Thunderbird SC. I LOVED that f'n car! The whine from the SC when it gets going... Used to make my pants shrink. But it is used, it is old and it is supposed to have a precise tolerance between the lobes. If you do get it, I'd take it to a speed shop that can give it a once over before you invest in installing it. Case in point- Like I said, I USED to have a TBird SC. It was stolen, stripped and set on fire. When I saw it, they had pulled the SC but left the intercooler pipe...which was full of oil. Blessing in disguise as the SC was worn out! So be aware of the cheap supercharger!
 
Now I'm not anywhere near familiar with your engine but I might be able to help ya in some areas. Since his supercharger has 8 ports and yours (I'm only guessing) has 4 you might have problems lining it up or if it does your going to have some turbulence issues as air going into the engine will be erratic (intake channel differences). But I'm sure you can make modifications to it, if needed. Since you plan on running a EMS I wouldn't worry about CEL's however if you run as is with no tuning (with 4 psi) your a/f's might be slightly to moderately lean if you using factory injectors and fuel pump. what are you planning on injectors, pump, regulator? Sorry I can't be of anymore help to ya, but I hope it goes as smoothly as possible for ya as you'll have a nice powerband, roots type are good for low end torque.
 
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Socco said:
My answers for you (for what they're worth):
1) 1995-1999 3RZs are 8 Port, 2000-2004 are 4 port.
Is yours a late '99 perhaps? You can get a 4 port manifold if needed.
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Man, I looked under my hood and it sure as hell looks like an 8 port to me. LC has a diagram showing that, too. I am just confused as hell since some guys over at CustomTaco's seem to disagree.

IDK what to believe AAHH!! lol

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2) $1500 - $2000 seems common for a used kit. However if WYSISYG in the pictures, then you're missing a bunch of parts!
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The sale includes the supercharger, 2 additional pulleys (2.4"/~8psi installed; 2.5"/~6psi and 2.6"/~4psi included), 2 belts (1 used, 1 unused), and a dynamic tensioner (unused because it didn't fit his install; the OEM idler pulley worked fine for him).

What else is needed? Planning on purchasing some ARP hardened studs.

3) I hope that the CEL doesn't start coming on :eek: after install.

I don't know a whole lot about the SC for 4Runners. My experience comes from having a Thunderbird SC. I LOVED that f'n car! The whine from the SC when it gets going... Used to make my pants shrink. But it is used, it is old and it is supposed to have a precise tolerance between the lobes. If you do get it, I'd take it to a speed shop that can give it a once over before you invest in installing it. Case in point- Like I said, I USED to have a TBird SC. It was stolen, stripped and set on fire. When I saw it, they had pulled the SC but left the intercooler pipe...which was full of oil. Blessing in disguise as the SC was worn out! So be aware of the cheap supercharger!
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That sucks man. I would kill someone if they did that to my 4Runner... it's like a child to me. At least it was it's time... aha.

Seller seems trustworthy. With only 50k on the S/C, I'd change the oil in it and be done with it.
 
SkylineGTRracer said:
Now I'm not anywhere near familiar with your engine but I might be able to help ya in some areas. Since his supercharger has 8 ports and yours (I'm only guessing) has 4 you might have problems lining it up or if it does your going to have some turbulence issues as air going into the engine will be erratic (intake channel differences). But I'm sure you can make modifications to it, if needed. Since you plan on running a EMS I wouldn't worry about CEL's however if you run as is with no tuning (with 4 psi) your a/f's might be slightly to moderately lean if you using factory injectors and fuel pump. what are you planning on injectors, pump, regulator? Sorry I can't be of anymore help to ya, but I hope it goes as smoothly as possible for ya as you'll have a nice powerband, roots type are good for low end torque.
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I know that they'll bolt up, but I would rather use what's intended... I might just have to find another intake manifold. If not, I'll probably take your suggestion and have someone machine it.

BTW, as far as I am concerned ATM, the 4PSI pulley will do me well. After I save up some money, I want to run a TRD 5th Injector kit (Yes, they do make one for the little 2.7!)

Dying for that torque :D
 
These guys might be of some interest to ya. CAPA Performance your kit is at the bottom. Well thats good news that it'll line up. You should also invest in some gauges and some type of EOC! you gonna be on the gas alot, I have been since I got my truck tuned and I'm not even boosted.....yet.
 
I believe that you'll need a power steering belt routing pulley and bracket, manifold brace (support bracket,) piggyback computer?, some vacuum bits and of course new gaskets. But then again, I'm never wrong:)
 
SkylineGTRracer said:
These guys might be of some interest to ya. CAPA Performance your kit is at the bottom. Well thats good news that it'll line up. You should also invest in some gauges and some type of EOC! you gonna be on the gas alot, I have been since I got my truck tuned and I'm not even boosted.....yet.
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I'll be sure to check things out. He may also send me a Unichip, I noticed a few other 3RZer's have one, too.

Socco said:
I believe that you'll need a power steering belt routing pulley and bracket, manifold brace (support bracket,) piggyback computer?, some vacuum bits and of course new gaskets. But then again, I'm never wrong:)
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I have talked with the seller and he claims that all are needed are APR studs, which are stronger. He is sending me the whole set up, and I am not sure if that accounts for brackets, etc. I will find out though, and if not, I can contact LC Engineering, who now manufactures these superchargers.

SCRunner12 said:
I was going to PM you asking how it went. Hopefully this all works out for. Good luck.
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Thank you so very much man. I've always been happy to read your posts before and after you had your 3rd gen. I have been looking for an S/C or turbo set up for a long time, just like you've been looking for that sweet Limited you picked up.

I have talked with the seller, Jeff, and I'll be the proud owner of a supercharger within the next 4 months. These things are impossible to find, and I am glad you had me in mind when you found it!
 
The shop that I get my tuning done at HIGHLY recommends the Unichip. Of the 5 3rd gen 4rUnners he has done, I am the only one without it.

Look like a good setup, just cannot beat URD for tech and customer support.


t4r4life said:
congrats james now you can smoke some ricers with ur runner lol
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And God does it feel good!
 
Oh Man, this will be cool! I feel like the Twin Turbo setup is optimal, but not for not the best costwise. I hope i get to see this thing run in person!
 
ChildrenOfBodom said:
Thank you so very much man. I've always been happy to read your posts before and after you had your 3rd gen. I have been looking for an S/C or turbo set up for a long time, just like you've been looking for that sweet Limited you picked up.

I have talked with the seller, Jeff, and I'll be the proud owner of a supercharger within the next 4 months. These things are impossible to find, and I am glad you had me in mind when you found it!
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Honestly when I saw that post you were the first person I thought of. I am happy to say that I may have had a hand in your already amazing build. Looking forward to seeing your 4runner in person when I make a trip down south this summer.

So are you going to get the supercharger before the 4 months or will your payment plan be done by then?
 
SCRunner12 said:
Honestly when I saw that post you were the first person I thought of. I am happy to say that I may have had a hand in your already amazing build. Looking forward to seeing your 4runner in person when I make a trip down south this summer.

So are you going to get the supercharger before the 4 months or will your payment plan be done by then?
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Thanks dude, if anything, you've got one of the biggest parts of my build now. You have to let us know when you're coming down.

Hopefully I get it before 4 months, but that's just a maximum deadline.

Sweet, BOOST! Driffter33 and I can get in S/C Whine battles lol
 
A.Wilson013 said:
The shop that I get my tuning done at HIGHLY recommends the Unichip. Of the 5 3rd gen 4rUnners he has done, I am the only one without it.

Look like a good setup, just cannot beat URD for tech and customer support.



And God does it feel good!
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I just looked it up.

$545! He's sending me one free.

My brother's truck was tuned over here at Split Second which isn't too far from my dealership. I'll go there if I want it seriously tuned later.
 
So to get this straight you have to wait till you pay it all off then you get it or he will send it to you and you have to pay him through payment?
 
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