86Original said:
So, how well have you maintained your 22RE's??? Who rebuilt the 2nd & 3rd engines? Did you run them (close) to the redline frequently?
You must be a glutton for punishment if you're going to put a chevy in. You'll be repairing that constantly!!!:bonk:
Mine had 3 miles on it when we took it for a test drive 20 years ago. Since then we've put 255k miles on it. It was running fine at 180k when I put a synthetic blend oil in it. Big mistake. My main bearing seals started leaking, so I had it rebuilt at 212k, with a slight bore and a TRD level 1 cam put in it. It has run great since. I change the oil at about 4000 mi on average (std dev of 500). Coolant every other year.
Mine gets around 20 mpg mixed most of the time. If I'm light-footed it will easily get 22. Straight highway: 24mpg. If I'm pulling the 2000+lb camper up 3000 ft in 80 miles to Vedauwoo, then I get about 16mpg.
I regularly pass 3.slow runners going up I-70 to the Eisenhower Tunnel (6000 ft to ~11,000ft elevation).
The guy that rebuilt my engine (Choice City Auto Repair, Ft. Collins, CO) is a Toyota Master Mechanic, who used to be the lead mechanic @ the local Toy dealership. He'd take a 22RE over a V6 any day.
So there's one data point for you.
Well, I can see you're fishing but you're going to go home with an empty cooler I'm afraid. :bash:
I wouldn't say I have been on the same level as if I took it to the dealer every 3k and handed them a credit card, but I have done pretty good with it.
The most any of my motors have ever gone without an oil change is about 5k, but is usually closer to 3k. I was probably a little more relaxed with the original motor than I have been with the successive motors, but I wouldn't say at all that it was neglected.
I have never redlined the motor and rarely ever take it offroad. As a matter of fact, I haven't offroaded it for at least the last 3 years at all.
I was pulling a 2500lb boat with it that I think killed the first motor, and probably hurt the second before we got our first V6 4runner that took over towing duties.
The second motor came from a junkyard and supposedly had 80k on it. It lasted about 60k longer then pooped. In all fairness it was probabyl just a blown head gasket but at the time I was kind of pissed that it went out again and decided to get a remanned engine from a local engine shop. The second engine never went more than 4000 miles without a change. I do them at every 3300, 6600, and 9900 on the odometer religiously. That way I never have to write down milage or wonder if its due.
The third motor recently had 12k on it when the plastic drivers side rail broke off, went through the bottom gear, jumped the time and bent all 4 intake valves in the head. Too bad it took me 2 years to get 12k on it, because the warranty was gone when it happened. I did the repair work myself this time and I think it is done right and will hopefully last me a bit this time.
I did go with a rebuilt head from J and C Enterprises that has a Crane cams Stage 2 cam, O/S SS engnbldr vales, and heavier valve springs in it. I also used an engnbldr steel backed drivers side rail timing kit too. As long as the bottom end lasts it should be ok this time but I am convinced that once you blow the stock motor you cannot get a quality replacement for it. The rebuilt motors just aren't as high quality unless they are rebuilt with all new OEM parts which would probably cost $4k.
Now that I have been all through this motor and learned a lot more about it, I feel much more confident with most of the things that could go wrong with it. But I'm still dropping a Chevy Crate motor in it next year.
These motors are all completely brand new long block kits and the one I'm looking at puts out 290hp/320lbs and in Chevy applications they warranty it for 3 years with 100k milage. I'm sure putting it in a yota will void that, but if they are confident enough to warranty it like that it must be built pretty good.
And compared to replacement rebuilt 22re's that go for $1600-1800 around here, brand new in a crate from Chevy
including heads only runs $1600 for one like I'm looking at. Not to mention in a pinch you can get them from people locally for $250 and a case of beer if you need to, its not hard to see why even if for replacement reaons only I'm considering the SBC swap.
I'm tired of inferior engines... I'm tired of over-priced replacement parts... And most of all I'm tired of a slow truck.
The swap will fix all of that in a nice, neat box.
If you're curious about the engine I'm talking about, here's the link:
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/197...M1-New-Goodwrench-Engine-10067353--P62C0.aspx
I'm not just talking out of my ass here... I've been considering it for quite some time.
