4th->5th gen brake swap

[JBend]

So, I know, I've read EBDURINGGUERILA's write up on this and it's extremely helpful BUT, I still wanted to ask two questions.

1.) I've read that 2014/2015 models still have somewhat of a problem with calipers seizing. If you've done this what year brakes did you order?

2.) If you've done this how is everything holding up? I have a 2007 SR5 v6.

 

[JuniorPigeon]

I'd also like to hear some input from long term swap use. I've heard the same thing about 5th gen calipers having similar seizing issues.

 

[gimlithepirate]

I'd also like to hear some input from long term swap use. I've heard the same thing about 5th gen calipers having similar seizing issues.

From what I understand, the 5th gen calipers definitely have the same problem. That said, its less likely to happen than the 4th gen. Its not a perfect fix, just an improvement.

I don't have any long term info on mine yet, but I will say that if you've had seized caliper issues replacing them makes a big difference in drive-ability. Time will tell if it is worth it, but if your rotor is warped or caliper seized, I see no reason not to do the upgrade.

 

[4RunnerAquasport]

No problems on my 12' (127k miles) or the Centric 5th gen calipers I put on my 4th gen, but they only have about 20k miles. I wonder if it's a rust belt thing.....anyone in the South West or South East have the seizing issue? Was really hoping that the 5th gens didn't have this problem.

 

[JBend]

No problems on my 12' (127k miles) or the Centric 5th gen calipers I put on my 4th gen, but they only have about 20k miles. I wonder if it's a rust belt thing.....anyone in the South West or South East have the seizing issue? Was really hoping that the 5th gens didn't have this problem.

Where are you located? I'm in south Ohio so I'm very much in the rust belt. Also I agree with if you need to replace why not replace it with newer and probably better parts which I will do. I just don't know if all 5th gen rotors, pads and calipers are all the same.

 

[4RunnerAquasport]

Where are you located? I'm in south Ohio so I'm very much in the rust belt. Also I agree with if you need to replace why not replace it with newer and probably better parts which I will do. I just don't know if all 5th gen rotors, pads and calipers are all the same.

Yea being in Florida is no help at all with info on the subject. Sorry about that. Not the sharpest pencil some days. It's ridiculous what you guys have to go through with salted roads up there.

 

[084RUNNAH]

I was the first one to perform the 5th gen brake swap in 2013.

So far, my calipers are still holding up well and I live in Ontario, Canada. I've read some who did the 5th gen caliper swap had theirs seize on them but the pros outweigh the cons to me. Better braking performance, less chance of brake rotor warpage and the cost is roughly the same if you are going to change calipers regardless.

The good thing in the US is that some retail parts store are offering lifetime warranty on the calipers. So far, the best I've heard in Canada is 10 year warranty which is good for me

 

[CookieRoe]

5th gen upgrader here. I live in PA (rust belt). Would I do it again? Hell no.
People say better braking. I say to them, prove it. I felt no negligible difference in braking. I painted my calipers and yet, they still seized. I ended up replacing those (via RockAuto, Centric I believe) with other calipers that were specially treated for rust prevention. So far, so good. If you like to wrench and see for yourself, go ahead, have fun.

Is is objectively viable to do this swap? No.

Is is subjectively viable to do this swap? Yes (makes some feel better).

Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

 

[Inv4drZm]

I've read the sticking problem has to do with the seal around the piston, and that it's a terrible seal design and lets water through. If the 5th gen seals aren't a different design I'm sure they'll continue to corrode.

Truly Fixing Seized Calipers

I have an intermittent sticking problem on one of my stock 4th gen calipers too, I've fixed it once but it's starting to come back and pull left when braking hard.
I got a quote for $60 each caliper to have them cerakoted, including the piston bores, which should help with the corrosion and make them blingy. Maybe in a couple months I'll do that, too many projects.

 

[HIMILESV8SPORT]

Use OEM calipers

Just did the swap a few weeks ago. Got brand new Toyota calipers for less than $320 shipped. I figure this way I'm good for atleast 10 years with driving 8k a year. It does brake much better, but I'm pretty sure at least half of my pistons were stuck along with the slide pins on my old calipers. Also installed stainless lines on the front, still need to do rear lines. Rear calipers are reman 5th gens.

Should add that 5th gen pads are/were cheaper than 4th gen at least 2 years ago when I worked at Toyota dealer. Also got 2 sets of rotors off 10+ GX's that I turned as Lexus always got new rotors when they did brakes at that dealer.

 

[JBend]

Thanks for all the input guys. I would say regardless of doing it or not you will see better braking as they are newer parts. Just makes sense. This isn't a must do for me right now but it seems for what I want out of my truck it's a thing I will be doing. Thanks for the help some of you fellow rust belters, may the rust gods stay far away from us.

 

[ajw1275]

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