4th gen vs. GX vs. Sequoia

FourEyedWilly

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Currently my junk is a 06 4R SE V8 with 41K. Tossing around moving to a GX or a Sequoia. I posted here because I know we are bias.

So... GX or Sequoia. Pre-08 Sequoia or newer model? Any opinions? I do need the V8 and I can't afford a LC. Hoping everyone can come up with some thoughts I'm missing.

Thanks!
 
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The GX hands down. I had an 03' Sequoia before going back to another 4runner. While it was a nice rig, my wife's GX is simply the nicest driving SUV I've been in. I spent a lot of time in my 4Runner and when I do get back behind the wheel of the Lexus, I cannot believe they are essentially the same car. The difference, to me at least, is night a day.

Don't get me wrong, both are great cars. I loved the Sequoia for the few years I had it but it was simply too much car for what I needed it for. If you do go that route, I'm sure you'll be happy with it.
 
I have driven the last body GX and Sequoia but not extensively.

I like my 4Runner but it is on the ragged edge of too small for me or more correctly too small feeling inside. If you want the size and can handle the extra width the Sequoia would be nice choice IMHO.

IMHO the last gen GX would be the hands down winner. Just enough extra roominess, so quiet and smooth too:bigok: If you are interested in a few mods look for Lexwoody's posts here and a T120, he's got a very cool ride.

The only last thing to throw in the mix is the Sequoia has the cool 4Runner style tailgate/window; the GX does not.

For me a gently used GX will be on my shortlist.
 
why don't you get a landcruiser? u can def find one in the same price range.

that name/brand alone makes it all that much cooler. :D
 
why don't you get a landcruiser? u can def find one in the same price range.

that name/brand alone makes it all that much cooler. :D

Oh I've got my eyes out for one. They are just so hard to come by...unless I want gold. Sigh...

I test drove an 03 Sequoia today. It felt good. 40K on the ODO asking 17K. Ran the carfax, was in an accident in 03. No deal. I'm going to test drive the GX on Monday. I know where that is going to go. :cool:

The only three I will consider, well four, are the above mentioned.
 
GX!!! I would have KILLED to get a GX but didn't wanna shell out that much for a vehicle with really high miles. It really is hard to believe that they're essentially the same vehicle. On another note, things I routinely saw go wrong with a GX is the rear air suspension messing up and a lot needed new radiators.
 
Just offering an update. Test drove some rides today...

Older Sequoia. 2005. I actually kinda dig the throwback feel, but it was big

Newer Sequoia. 2009 POWER BIG Hmmmm....

GX470 - Oh dear. I may have fallen in love.

2010 4Runner TE with KDSS demo $35K.
The interior is cool, the exterior is cool. I DO NOT like the engine/transmission compared to my 06. It sounded cheap and sounded like it was "winding up". It felt unrefined but NOT in a bad way. It felt like a truck. After driving my 4th gen, it's not in any way what I want.

Tomorrow, looking at a 2005 Lexus GX470 in Nautical Blue with only 19K on the odo. I'm hoping this is the one!
 
Be weary of that rear air suspension system on the GX, and keep a watchfull eye on the infamous driveshaft clunk. The self leveling rear air suspension, at times, when you come to a stop, will trigger the driveshaft clunk in a much more severe manner than in a 4runner with normal struts. Yes, the GX is the "limo luxury" of the 4runner frame, but the only reason why I won't buy one, is simply due to the fact that it has air suspension components. Once you've had any sort of problem with the system, your wallet will never let you buy another.

It's not so much the issue to fix the rear system, which "some" have problems with the system never turning off, or turning on when needed, but the fact that finding a Lexus dealership that will pinpoint the problem the first time, is next to impossibe. I don't care how nice the staff is to you, or how many free cookies you eat in the waiting "lounge", I have yet to not be taken on a wild (and extremely expensive) goose chase when trying to figure out a problem (usually a $50 part, which ends up costing $1,500 to fix).

I've had two Lexus vehicles, both sedans, both V8's (LS & GS). I've been a Lexus "guru" on another web-board for years. The #1 heartache issue on the vehicles....the air suspension. Rare will you find a fix for under $1,000 with the system. Heck, I think the struts themselves are north of $1,300 a piece. After facing the typical softening of suspension bushings in my 01' GS430 recently, I decided to not go down the Lexus Repair Rabbit Hole. At 60K original miles, I ditched it for a completely different vehicle. Until Lexus produces a service side of the house that doesn't operate under the "they're rich when they bought it, they're rich when they fix it" business model, I won't be buying another one, period. I can tell you stories of the wild bull**** stories I've faced in the Lexus repair shops that would make you think highly of Chevy.

They don't break very often, but when they do, they really hurt. I much prefer a $150 strut vs a $1,500 strut.

Additionally, it's not the miles that cause the repairs....it's the age, it's the soft rubber used in the suspension bushings and mounts (that give Lexus their famous uber' quiet and smooth rides) that eventually loose their composure. If you're looking at anything beyond 5 years of age, budget about $1,000 to replace a few key parts - Two engine mounts, one transmission mount, rear carrier bushings, and rear differential bushings.
 
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Be weary of that rear air suspension system on the GX, and keep a watchfull eye on the infamous driveshaft clunk.

I've had two Lexus vehicles, both sedans, both V8's (LS & GS). I've been a Lexus "guru" on another web-board for years. The #1 heartache issue on the vehicles....the air suspension.

The rear clunk was fixed definitively by Lexus TSB...the 4th gen 4runner still suffers from it with no TSB in sight.
 
Currently my junk is a 06 4R SE V8 with 41K. Tossing around moving to a GX or a Sequoia. I posted here because I know we are bias.

So... GX or Sequoia. Pre-08 Sequoia or newer model? Any opinions? I do need the V8 and I can't afford a LC. Hoping everyone can come up with some thoughts I'm missing.

Thanks!

LOL that you call your V8 junk.

I'd go with the 2011 Sequoia. I think overall size of the 2011 is bigger.
 
LOL that you call your V8 junk.

I'd go with the 2011 Sequoia. I think overall size of the 2011 is bigger.

Oh, all my cars are junk. :D

I pulled the trigger on the GX today. :trophy: It was owned by a 70 year old man who did all his service at the Lexus dealer. The truck is an 05 with only 19K on it. Service was done every three months. The guy traded it in because he lost his license. I can't even say he did oil changes every 3K miles but every 3K months! This guy was anal. The truck IS brand new. I don't think I got a bad deal, $30K on the new, $21K on the 4Runner.

I'm a pig in poop right now! Vehicle is certified to 100K, but I may take the extended warranty. I have a hard time with that.
 
congrats on the new ride. i think those trucks are beautiful. the girlfriend recently got an 06 IS250 and she absolutely loves it. congrats again. is it the light grey or the tan interior?
 
Very nice! Have fun, that truck drives amazing! :worthless

I completey agree!! What thread is complete without some crampy iPhone pics?

I test drove another GX, then the 2011 4R TE. Mistake #1
I stopped by the dealer on a rumor. Mistake #2

They had this... 2005 GX470 with 19,000 original miles. Oil changes every 3 months, tint done, chrome rims (i could pass on this i think), navi update. It's Meridian Blue and I didn't know it existed. Fell in love the moment I saw it. They JUMPED on my 4R too. (I keep my cars flawless) Anyway, PICS!

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Looks great! So was I right? Doesn't the ride quality of the GX simply put the T4R to shame?

My wife's is the silver with the exact same interior as yours. The only think I do not like about her car is the light interior. I wanted the dark interior but we literally had to buy her car as I was heading out of town for several weeks and she would have been carless. Regardless of the interior color, we both love the car and I'm sure you'll love your too. :bigok:
 
Looks great! So was I right? Doesn't the ride quality of the GX simply put the T4R to shame?

My wife's is the silver with the exact same interior as yours. The only think I do not like about her car is the light interior. I wanted the dark interior but we literally had to buy her car as I was heading out of town for several weeks and she would have been carless. Regardless of the interior color, we both love the car and I'm sure you'll love your too. :bigok:

Oh man I'm telling you! I can tell I'm getting older because the ride, the leather, the woodgrain, the SOUND SYSTEM, the color....the car was made for me!

I know it's two different directions but being that this was more than I originally set out to spend, I went and test drove the 4R TE just to be sure I was moving in the right direction. The 05 GX felt light years more refined, more, well, just more. The new TE felt like a strippo model vehicle. I know, two target markets, but familiar price point.


For those that have driven the 10 or 11 4R TE, did it sound to you like the engine was winding up, loud, rough? Didn't the feel of the car seem, cheap?

Even compared to my 06SE it seemed like all the materials were cheapened?

Anyway, I did like the TE, but I found, it's not for me and my 99% on road butt.
 
Looks great! So was I right? Doesn't the ride quality of the GX simply put the T4R to shame?

My wife's is the silver with the exact same interior as yours. The only think I do not like about her car is the light interior. I wanted the dark interior but we literally had to buy her car as I was heading out of town for several weeks and she would have been carless. Regardless of the interior color, we both love the car and I'm sure you'll love your too. :bigok:

Good gosh.

Are you trying to compare the ride between Lexus SUV vs. an off road T4R? GX is probably at least 1.25 price of a T4R.

I think both the new and old GX had a recall due to rollover issues with the greater height of the vehicle.
 
Good gosh.

Are you trying to compare the ride between Lexus SUV vs. an off road T4R? GX is probably at least 1.25 price of a T4R.

I think both the new and old GX had a recall due to rollover issues with the greater height of the vehicle.


I compared but I didn't mean in a way that one is unequivocally better. Not the GX to 4Runner in a way that the 4Runner is lesser if that makes sense. Two different rides with two different target markets.

My issue, the TE seemed very cheap...for a 4Runner. I drove an FJ as well and it did not feel as cheap.

I still like the TE, I just know it's not for me. Just like I admit I really like those Ford and Chevy trucks that are lifted in the clouds with triple bypass shocks, flames, chrome, you name it, but it's NOT for me. I'm just glad someone else spends their money on all that auto-bling so I can point! Same, I'm glad there are those that the TE is great for, I can point and say "Cool, look!"

The TE is $38K or so if I remember right. Too steep for what you get. I think, if you are going to off roading in a serious way, dare I say, get a Rubicon. I say that with the approach "I'm buying this for serious off roading."
 
I like the GX470, especially those with KDSS. But I also like Trail. Those who know me knows that I love the Rubicon. However, I also have a family. So, for my needs, the Rubicon would not be a good vehicle. But my offroading needs are a bit more than what a stock GX can offer. So, a Trail is the perfect compromise.
 

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