rkntoy
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Gussets are 5.5" x 2". I used 1/4" thick steel
Hmmmm. I may add a leg or go with thicker walled legs or both. Thanks.
Gussets are 5.5" x 2". I used 1/4" thick steel
I hate to say it but these sliders are not very strong. Mine keep bending up. Even after bending the passenger side back down and adding the biggest gussets I could fit onto all 6 legs, its bent up again and the kick-out is millimeters from preventing my rear door from opening. One more good hit and I don't think I'll be able to use that door. I had them welded on by a reputable shop so I don't think the welds are an issue. When I purchased these, I weighed them and they came out to 28lbs each which seems pretty light for sliders. I don't think they are a poor product. They are just maybe a bit too light duty.
I bought mine about 3 years ago. Its possible that they have been improved since then.
Problem is bending the thicker wall stuff is a little harder on equipment. I've bent .188" wall on my JD2 model 3 bender, but it wasn't happy about it. You really need to step up to a beefier bender model if you're going to do that heavy a wall regularly.
Model 4?
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For sure. As mentioned, I don't think these are a bad product. They are just too light/thin for hard use.I wouldn't limit it to one brand. I've seen all brands of sliders do that on different vehicles. At the end of the day the vehicle's partial weight resting on the slider can/will cause some deflecting. Perhaps a thicker steel would help, but clearance is always a worry with sliders.
Next time around, I'll be building my own sliders with a mix of square tubing and .188" wall round tubing. Between my ARB front bumper and these sliders, I'm really done with the headaches of putting inadequate armor on my truck.To avoid the issue without going to 4130 and having it heat treated ($$$$) one should probably just pony up the dough for .188" wall or thicker DOM. The .120-.125" stuff will work, but if you beat on it hard, it'll dimple. Problem is bending the thicker wall stuff is a little harder on equipment. I've bent .188" wall on my JD2 model 3 bender, but it wasn't happy about it. You really need to step up to a beefier bender model if you're going to do that heavy a wall regularly.
For sure. As mentioned, I don't think these are a bad product. They are just too light/thin for hard use.
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Why aren't you Cali guys buying sliders from BAMF?
I went with HREW and they are extremely solid. I'd rather damage or bend a slider than damage or bend my thin frame that I'm welding the slider to. Seems much easier to cut off a damaged slider and weld a new one on especially for $250. That was my weakest link analysis when I pulled the trigger on the HREW. Just curious, what deflection issue did 4XI have?Anyone know if 4xI has fixed the deflection issue and is this only on the HREW or is it also with the DOM? Does the square main tube make a difference? I'm about the pull the trigger on these.
I went with HREW and they are extremely solid. I'd rather damage or bend a slider than damage or bend my thin frame that I'm welding the slider to. Seems much easier to cut off a damaged slider and weld a new one on especially for $250. That was my weakest link analysis when I pulled the trigger on the HREW. Just curious, what deflection issue did 4XI have?
Oh WOW. I had not heard about that. That is definitely something worth considering. I would think you'd have to come down really hard on a rock to do that. Way harder than I'm willing to wheel my 4Runner at least.Some people have reported them deflecting enough to dent the rocker panels.
I forgot about that video. I had watched several years ago when I was trying to decide which sliders to buy. Very Informative. There's some classic quotes from Adam in that video. "18 inches is a long way to fall........you just don't want to make a habit of that to start with." Haha. Agreed.<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sdQPhzA44ms?si=e-OBoXAGHcC0DYNW" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Anyone know if 4xI has fixed the deflection issue and is this only on the HREW or is it also with the DOM? Does the square main tube make a difference? I'm about the pull the trigger on these.
I've been beating the shit out of mine for 3 or 4 years and haven't had any issues with them.