5 speed r150f vs 4 speed a340f
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Tyler James Inc
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I think the auto is better for just about everything besides fun and maintenance- and even maintenance is questionable with clutch replacements.
The mileage difference is negligible between my '97 auto and '01 manual- everything being equal. Both got/get 15-16mpg calculated on the same tires. It's a little better than that, because I am traveling more than my ODO says with the 315s.
I did the manual swap because I like driving manuals, and I've always wanted to manual swap a 3rd gen- swapping one that was a little more of a challenge was icing on the cool-factor cake.
I know some will disagree, but- in general- I think the auto is better for off-road.
Strawberry milkshake shouldn't even really be a factor, because that's pretty easy to eliminate.
Even if I got 1mpg better, that's really still nothing IMO. My commute is only 30 miles each way though.
If your rig is 100% stock- including wheels and tires- I think the manual might shine a little more vs the auto in mpg numbers.
The mileage difference is negligible between my '97 auto and '01 manual- everything being equal. Both got/get 15-16mpg calculated on the same tires. It's a little better than that, because I am traveling more than my ODO says with the 315s.
I did the manual swap because I like driving manuals, and I've always wanted to manual swap a 3rd gen- swapping one that was a little more of a challenge was icing on the cool-factor cake.
I know some will disagree, but- in general- I think the auto is better for off-road.
Strawberry milkshake shouldn't even really be a factor, because that's pretty easy to eliminate.
Even if I got 1mpg better, that's really still nothing IMO. My commute is only 30 miles each way though.
If your rig is 100% stock- including wheels and tires- I think the manual might shine a little more vs the auto in mpg numbers.
I always want the one I do not currently drive.
Had a 5spd Tacoma for 11 years. Loved it, but lusted for an Auto a lot.
Now I have an Auto, and miss the 5spd.
In the mornings, after a long bike ride, exploring
= Auto.
Afternoons, spirited driving on road, higher speed desert stuff, feeling manly = 5spd.
When I was shopping for my 4Runner, was looking for a 5 spd, after driving a couple, not as huge of a difference some lead on in my opinion.
I notice more of a difference in the Tacomas for some reason.
Not really wrong choice.
Sand dunes and rock crawling is easier in an auto.
Ramble over!!
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Had a 5spd Tacoma for 11 years. Loved it, but lusted for an Auto a lot.
Now I have an Auto, and miss the 5spd.
In the mornings, after a long bike ride, exploring
= Auto.
Afternoons, spirited driving on road, higher speed desert stuff, feeling manly = 5spd.
When I was shopping for my 4Runner, was looking for a 5 spd, after driving a couple, not as huge of a difference some lead on in my opinion.
I notice more of a difference in the Tacomas for some reason.
Not really wrong choice.
Sand dunes and rock crawling is easier in an auto.
Ramble over!!
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I'd say manual is a lot more fun to drive. Definitely more challenging on trails. It's also cooler hahaa. Every time anyone looks inside my truck and go ,"whoa manual?" This can be arguable but I think manual is stronger then autos. And no pink milkshake to worry. Not really worried about replacing a clutch every 100k or more.
Tyler James Inc
Senior Member
Just sell the manual. The autos are great [emoji12][emoji1598]
pluton
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I chose manual because I was buying a truck with 100,000 miles. Autos can fail without warning once they get up in miles. Manuals give warning noises long before failing. If I was buying brand new, I'd have no problem getting an auto.
Autos are easier on the drivetrain over rough country IMO.
Autos are easier on the drivetrain over rough country IMO.
Didn't you do a manual swap also ?
It's just personal preference for me - really enjoy the manual trans.
I will say there are some situations off roading where an automatic would probably be better. Sometimes 1000 rpm/lo/1st gear is still a bit too fast, and you either have to get busy with a 3 pedal dance and slip the clutch a little, or just go over something a little quicker than you'd otherwise want to. Being able to 2-pedal inch your way over something might be better, but the other 99.8% of the time makes up for that.
Just did a clutch replacement on mine at 213K miles.
I will say there are some situations off roading where an automatic would probably be better. Sometimes 1000 rpm/lo/1st gear is still a bit too fast, and you either have to get busy with a 3 pedal dance and slip the clutch a little, or just go over something a little quicker than you'd otherwise want to. Being able to 2-pedal inch your way over something might be better, but the other 99.8% of the time makes up for that.
Just did a clutch replacement on mine at 213K miles.
