5160 for 3rd gen?
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TonyB66
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Jordan, no help, other than I saw a lengthy discussion on the Tacoma forum about that combo, just last night actually...
revenantdead
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I did it. 5160's in the rear. My build is tundra 5100 fronts with YY/YB trd coils and LC 8 wrap rears. I've had them on for 2 years at this point. If I remember I looked up the length of the rears that Sonoran steel was using for their 1.2 lift and applied that to bilsteins website and came up with fj cruiser 5160's being a viable option.
When I got my 6112s from MRT, I spoke with Chas of the same thing. Mentioned there is a clearance issue, but also made a good argument for not requiring those with my setup so I left it alone..
I suggest call MRT , they said they’ve done heaps of testing of those 5160s...they sell em for other gens...
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revenantdead
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Confirmed part # 25-227611
absalom
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That appears to be for the 4th gen. Can anyone confirm that this PN# will work for 3rd gens?
phattyduck
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Bilstein seems to have part numbers listed for 3rd gen specific 5160's on their application guide - but they aren't showing for sale anywhere... 'soon' is probably the answer.
https://cart.bilsteinus.com/Portals/0/BILSTEINOff-RoadCatalog-2018-WEB.pdf
It doesn't show up on their online application guide, just the .pdf.
For FJ/4th gen/5th gen shocks, they would be too long by about 2 inches - but that's what bump stop spacers are for. Remote reservoir mounting would be up to you.
-Charlie
https://cart.bilsteinus.com/Portals/0/BILSTEINOff-RoadCatalog-2018-WEB.pdf
It doesn't show up on their online application guide, just the .pdf.
For FJ/4th gen/5th gen shocks, they would be too long by about 2 inches - but that's what bump stop spacers are for. Remote reservoir mounting would be up to you.
-Charlie
revenantdead
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this is what's on my truck right now... pics tomorrow. Also like I said it matches the length based on the SS 1.2 shock, the same length as a land cruiser tokico. Closely enough for me anyway. I also do run a bump stop extension.
absalom
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You are 100% correct. I just spoke with corporate Bilstein. They are planning to release 3rd gen 5160s later this year. That solves that!
RomanSchnobrich
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5160s Experience
For those interested, I've had the 5160 piggyback shocks on my 2000 for about two months now and they're kicking ass. I don't have an aftermarket rear bumper and probably keep about 100 lbs of gear in my cargo space all the time, and the shocks have been riding phenomenally. Granted, I haven't been to Moab or done any crawling with them, but they can handle snow-covered Montana backroads with ease.
For those interested, I've had the 5160 piggyback shocks on my 2000 for about two months now and they're kicking ass. I don't have an aftermarket rear bumper and probably keep about 100 lbs of gear in my cargo space all the time, and the shocks have been riding phenomenally. Granted, I haven't been to Moab or done any crawling with them, but they can handle snow-covered Montana backroads with ease.
I suggest you stay away from MRT. Chas left a bad taste on a lot of forums.
I see Wheeler's is selling the 5160 remote resi kit as a bolt on for the 4-Runner, but I am curious if Bilstein has approved this application. I had an issue with my 5100's leaking from the weld at the bottom eyelet after 6 months of use and Bilstein refused to warranty them because, in spite of the shocks being marketed for the 4-Runner, they are technically designed for the Tundra.
So Bilstein refused to warranty what was blatantly a manufacturer defect because, as the Email from "Junior Africa, Technical CSR, Sales Rep" stated when he refused the warranty, "These shocks were built for 1st gen Tundras and is intended for OEM coils. From a Bilstein perspective this damper is being used outside of what it was designed for".
What I am getting at is, even though Wheeler's (and don't get me wrong, I love the place and have bought a lot of parts through them and will continue to do so) markets the shocks as for the 4-Runner that does not necessarily mean Bilstein will stand behind them if there's an issue.
I love the ride on my Billies and would buy them again, just some food for thought and a possible heads up.
So Bilstein refused to warranty what was blatantly a manufacturer defect because, as the Email from "Junior Africa, Technical CSR, Sales Rep" stated when he refused the warranty, "These shocks were built for 1st gen Tundras and is intended for OEM coils. From a Bilstein perspective this damper is being used outside of what it was designed for".
What I am getting at is, even though Wheeler's (and don't get me wrong, I love the place and have bought a lot of parts through them and will continue to do so) markets the shocks as for the 4-Runner that does not necessarily mean Bilstein will stand behind them if there's an issue.
I love the ride on my Billies and would buy them again, just some food for thought and a possible heads up.
phattyduck
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There *is* a 5100 application for the 4Runner specifically now. The 5160's linked there are also specifically 3rd gen 4Runner.
Check it out for yourself: Bilstein Online Catalog
-Charlie
Check it out for yourself: Bilstein Online Catalog
-Charlie
Anyone know why there's a difference in part numbers for the 5160 rear?
Bilstein website catalogue says:
Part Number: 25-311310 for rear left
Part Number: 25-311303 for rear right
But Wheelers offroad site says:
Bilstein 5160 Remote Reservoir Rear Shock Set for 96-02 4Runner (25-311310/25-311303)
Part numbers: 25-268362 / 25-268379
Shock Surplus site matches the bilstein:
Bilstein 5160 Res Shocks Rear for 96-02 4Runner 0-2.5 lift
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Also if I'm gonna get the 6112 / 5160 combo, (currently have 5100 Bilstein shocks w/ OME 881 (front) and OME 906 (rear))
1. What perch setting should I get the 6112 set at?
2. Is it recommended I keep the OME 906 springs in the rear or change to something else? I like the height its at now, although I didn't measure, i think it's around 2"
Bilstein website catalogue says:
Part Number: 25-311310 for rear left
Part Number: 25-311303 for rear right
But Wheelers offroad site says:
Bilstein 5160 Remote Reservoir Rear Shock Set for 96-02 4Runner (25-311310/25-311303)
Part numbers: 25-268362 / 25-268379
Shock Surplus site matches the bilstein:
Bilstein 5160 Res Shocks Rear for 96-02 4Runner 0-2.5 lift
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Also if I'm gonna get the 6112 / 5160 combo, (currently have 5100 Bilstein shocks w/ OME 881 (front) and OME 906 (rear))
1. What perch setting should I get the 6112 set at?
2. Is it recommended I keep the OME 906 springs in the rear or change to something else? I like the height its at now, although I didn't measure, i think it's around 2"
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phattyduck
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Bilstein has a bad habit of changing part numbers. If you search the 25-268362 number on their website, it will map you to the 25-311310 part number. They are likely the 'same' part, maybe with a minor update between the two.
My best guess? Either will work the same for you.
-Charlie
Found my old notes: 2001 stock
20" front
20.5" rear
From hub center to the fender
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After lift: w/ 5100 OME 801/906
Front: passenger 22.5" driver 22"
Rear: passenger 22.25" driver 22"
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So if I want to keep around 2" lift, with 6112/5160 combo
1. What perch setting do I set the 6112 ? #8/#7" for 1.97"?
2. What springs do people use in the rear? Do I keep the 906 or go with something else for the 5160?
20" front
20.5" rear
From hub center to the fender
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After lift: w/ 5100 OME 801/906
Front: passenger 22.5" driver 22"
Rear: passenger 22.25" driver 22"
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So if I want to keep around 2" lift, with 6112/5160 combo
1. What perch setting do I set the 6112 ? #8/#7" for 1.97"?
2. What springs do people use in the rear? Do I keep the 906 or go with something else for the 5160?
