5th Gen Questions...

[OUTRNNR]

Hey all!

I am looking to get the wife into a 5th Gen 4Runner and had a few questions...

1) The TE's are part time 4WD? Is it auto-sensing engagement, or do you have to physically shift into 4WD? I need some more info about the drivetrain...

2) Do all 2010 TE's with the Nav come with KDSS? On toyota.com for the 2011's these two look mutually inclusive

3) How does the terrain management system (knob on headliner) work?

4) What's the market price for a 2010 TE with Nav with 11,000 miles? My local Toyota dealership has a black one and they are asking $38k which seems expensive.

Thanks!

 

[DocMT]

If your wife wants full-time 4wd, then you'll have to get her a Limited. The SR5 & Trail are both part-time 4wd.

 

[adoihcj]

Based on question #1 alone, get the Limited (unless your wife feels comfortable moving in and out of 4WD).

 

[OUTRNNR]

Based on question #1 alone, get the Limited (unless your wife feels comfortable moving in and out of 4WD).

I'm sure she does, I am just trying to figure out more about the system. Is it auto-sensing 4WD, where is automatically engages the front dif? Or do you have to manually shift in and out of 4WD? Is there a speed limit to shift in/out of 4WD?

Thanks!

 

[Aerostone]

Yes, that is a really high price for a 2010 with 11k miles. I just bought my TE few weeks ago and it's 2011 (not 2010) with all options (Nav, slider trunk, first aid kits, mats, and so on) you can think of for $38,500. It is also black. I posted pictures of it in the New Members column. Granted, the truck was priced $41k+ but because I had my pre-approval check AND I went through USAA to give me the Invoice price, I was able to bargain with them for about 4 hours. I had 4 other Toyota dealerships I called prior so I was ready to walk out and play their games against them.

2010 and 2011 TE models aren't going to be priced completely differently. But the fact that you are buying a 2010 WITH 11k miles at that price is ridiculous.

 

[adoihcj]

I'm sure she does, I am just trying to figure out more about the system. Is it auto-sensing 4WD, where is automatically engages the front dif? Or do you have to manually shift in and out of 4WD? Is there a speed limit to shift in/out of 4WD?

Thanks!

You have to manually shift, it's not auto sensing. Take it from me, my wife wants auto sensing and wishes we had the Limited. My wife doesn't like moving in and out of 4WD and you cannot drive the SR5 or Trail in 4WD on dry pavement while making turns. Unfortunately, I did not know this when we purchased the vehicle (even the manual doesn't mention anything about driving on dry pavement).

 

[OUTRNNR]

Yes, that is a really high price for a 2010 with 11k miles. I just bought my TE few weeks ago and it's 2011 (not 2010) with all options (Nav, slider trunk, first aid kits, mats, and so on) you can think of for $38,500. It is also black. I posted pictures of it in the New Members column. Granted, the truck was priced $41k+ but because I had my pre-approval check AND I went through USAA to give me the Invoice price, I was able to bargain with them for about 4 hours. I had 4 other Toyota dealerships I called prior so I was ready to walk out and play their games against them.

2010 and 2011 TE models aren't going to be priced completely differently. But the fact that you are buying a 2010 WITH 11k miles at that price is ridiculous.

Thanks for the input. So how much would you pay for the one I am looking at? $35k?

 

[Ft Myers Ken]

He's right ^
That's too much money for a used model. I just paid 38,500 for a new 11' Limited with Nav.

 

[scanny]

I'm sure she does, I am just trying to figure out more about the system. Is it auto-sensing 4WD, where is automatically engages the front dif? Or do you have to manually shift in and out of 4WD? Is there a speed limit to shift in/out of 4WD?

For TE/SR5 editions 4WD is completely manual, you have to switch it on and off when you feel you need it. The trucks have transfer case instead of center differential, and 4WD should be used only on slippery surfaces. 4Hi Can be turned on at the speed under 50 mph, turned off at any speed. For turning on/off 4Lo you'll have to come to complete stop.

4Runner Limited Edition has full time 4x4, it doesn't have 2wd mode.

 

[OUTRNNR]

You have to manually shift, it's not auto sensing. Take it from me, my wife wants auto sensing and wishes we had the Limited. My wife doesn't like moving in and out of 4WD and you cannot drive the SR5 or Trail in 4WD on dry pavement while making turns. Unfortunately, I did not know this when we purchased the vehicle (even the manual doesn't mention anything about driving on dry pavement).

Got it. Yeah, that's how my Tundra is. I'm not a huge fan, wish it had the AWD transfer case like the Sequoia. Plus you have to be going less than 50 mph to shift in/out of 4WD, doesn't really make sense on a variable conditions interstate...

Thanks for the info.

 

[Aerostone]

3 Settings: 2H, 4H, 4L. You can shift from 2H to 4H below 50mph. You have to stop, place the car in neutral to move it from 4H to 4L. I think this is great for people who are not used to shifting from one gear to the next because you don't want 4L anywhere close to that range.

I don't know where you are but having gone through snow blizzards here (another one coming) and other slippery conditions, the 2H is sufficient. I used 4H when my truck was in 3ft of snow. I used 4L when I was doing off-roading in the mudflats on certain areas.

I don't think it's a complicated thing after you think about it. If you want the options and the fun of a real SUV-truck that'll plow through almost anything, then get the TE. If you're just for the cruising on the highway type, then get the Limited with the more luxurious options.

 

[Aerostone]

Got it. Yeah, that's how my Tundra is. I'm not a huge fan, wish it had the AWD transfer case like the Sequoia. Plus you have to be going less than 50 mph to shift in/out of 4WD, doesn't really make sense on a variable conditions interstate...

Thanks for the info.

Go on the Kelly's Blue Book and plug and play your options and see what you come out with for the price.

If you're really in the market and $38-40k is in your price range, why not get the 2011, knowing that you'll get a brand new car (unless you got something against buying new cars haha).

 

[OUTRNNR]

Go on the Kelly's Blue Book and plug and play your options and see what you come out with for the price.

If you're really in the market and $38-40k is in your price range, why not get the 2011, knowing that you'll get a brand new car (unless you got something against buying new cars haha).

Yeah, I was more looking for what the people on here were paying which I think a little more useful than a KBB, or Edmunds, etc.

A new car is always an option, but I really dislike buying brand new, especially if you can get a $5k discount on a basically identical vehicle with 10k miles, make someone else take the big initial depreciation hit.

Thanks for the info on the 4WD system too...

 

[Aerostone]

I agree with the depreciation. But what people don't take into account is 10k miles driven in Texas is way different than 10k driven in NJ or NYC. And the fact that 4Runners will last you way more than regular trucks, the depreciation hit is negligeable in the long run because of the reliability and practical use of the vehicle.